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wrote on 2/20/05 5:17 PM:
snippage...
No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific
type
of
scan in a
specific geographic area and the waiting is for
non-emergencies.
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LOL Again, sure. I understand that when he turns into an
'emergency' case he will be right in the door. That you
don't
see a problem with that says alot about your blindly
following
what you are being told...
Being told by whom?
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Your ideological mouth pieces. Apparently you can't think
for
yourself...
What ideological mouthpieces?
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The ones that tell you that the Canadian system has no waiting
times, and is the best system.
Who are they? When did they tell me this?
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You tell me. Or, were you just making up the stuff you claimed
about getting in for any test right away?
Take a look into low birth weight babies born in Canada
vs
the
US. Being born low weight to a Canadian family is a
greater
risk
that being born to a African-American family in the US.
Where
does that fit in with your ill-concieved ideas that the
'poor'
in
the US suffer, while no-one in Canada does?
Where are you getting that information?
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Try getting it yourself. You're the one in canada....
As I suspected. More yakety yak by someone who has no idea.
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LOL Thanks for proving that you are ignorant of computer
use.
Your statement does not compute.
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Of course not, not to someone that apparently dosen't know how
to use theirs, eh?
Logic system failure.
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Yes, you have failed at alot of things here.
As far as making ignorant claims, there are more than a few
that
you have never backed up.
This is a weasely way of admitting that you can't back up
your claim.
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Nopde. Try again fool. I've even given you the hints...
No hinting necessary weasel.
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Of couirse not. You knew you were spouting idiocy when you
started. You just weren't expecting to be called on your
stupidity.
tell me a 2 1/2 year wait if the boy does have cancer
won't
effect the outcome of his life, and that if the family
HAS
the
money, they won't get one privately in Canada or the
states.
snip...
Yes, rich people everywhere can find ways to get things
that
other people
can't. Canada does not have a ban on rich people.
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Yet you try to pretend that your have a single health
care
system
for all, and equal for all.
I've said no such thing. But a poor person will receive a
higher standard of
care in Canada than most anywhere else on the planet.
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LOL Again, once they are an 'emergency', eh?
No. I can leave my house right now and drive to the nearest
medical clinic
and get excellent care. They will not ask me how much money
I
make.
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Sure, but they will make you wait for the tests to determine
what
you mental illness is. That you are trying to deny that
there
are long wait lists for many treatments needed across Canada
is
your ideology speaking, not reality.
The quality of care varies somewhat particulary (as one might
expect) in
sparsely populated regions. But the standard of care across
the country is
excellent. I should know, I use it, and so do my friends and
relatives. FYI,
I was born in Evanston, Illinois, and I know a fair bit about
health care in
both countries, with relatives that live in both.
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Wow, how nice. Do you figure that you are the only one with
family and friends in both systems?
No.
Everyone prefers the
Canadian system. That is not to say that no one has ever
complained about
how long they had to wait for an elective procedure, but
between the two
systems as a whole, it is no contenst. It has nothing to do
with ideology.
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Then they must be as brainwashed as you, because many of the
ones I know always come back to the US for care. And, in a
couple of cases, to give care.
How many? What are they coming for? Why?
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Why do all yours allegedly prefer the canadian system? I've
answered one reason right off the bat. No waits. In a couple of
cases the treatments needed weren't life threatening, but very
painful joint problems. They decided that their wait time, and
being dosed with painkillers instead of treatment was medically
unsound.
As to the 'anywhere else on the planet', Canada barely
ranks
better than the US
And yet, ranks better, by whatever standard you are using.
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LOL Where have I ever claimed the US had no problems?
You on
the other hand are trying to defend the indefenseble.
Not at all. So far you have pointed out that certain people
looking for a
very specific type of scan in a non-emergency situation in
Newfoundland are
having to wait a long time. This is a far cry from the
statements about
peopel dying in waiting lines that brought me into this goofy
discussion.
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LOL That you have to fisate on one example says alot about
your brainwashing. That you believe that that is the one and
only case available to find is a hoot.
It was your example.
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Yes, one example of many. Why do you try to deny the months long
wait lists acroos Canada? More chest thumping?
and both are in the 30s, from the top of best
care. Both have serious problems, and jingoistically
pounding
your chest about being #30 doesn't really mean anything,
does
it?
This means, logically,
at the other end of the scale a very rich person may
indeed
opt
to seek care
elsewhere.
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Again, yes, rather than to wait until they are an
'emergency'
case.
You have no clue.
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Yes, apparently more than you.
There is no evidence of that.
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I've posted real data, from real sites.
Perhaps so, but none to support your argument.
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LOL So, the sites I have posted have somehow said that there are
no wait times in canada? Man, you do have comprhension problems,
don't you?
You seem to be making it up as you go. Come on, provide more
than just your say-so that there are no waiting lines for
Canadian health-care.
If you mean that somewhere in a doctor's office or emergency
room someone is waiting, I have to agree.
But no one is dying in a waiting line.
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An assertion that is not backed up by canadian sources. And for
many, the decision is not to wait until then, but to go elsewhere
for treatment.
I went to the doctor just last Monday. I called on Friday. Got
an appointment Monday afternoon. Received excellent care. Got a
prescription, had it filled that day. What's the problem?
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ummm, one example. Somehow I get the feeling that one exmple
for youis adequate, but I have to show that every Canadian is
waiting for specialized treatment. see your ideology is still
in control, rather that rationality.
You are basing your ridiculous views on an isolated
situation
in
Newfoundland. That's like basing my view of US health care
on
some spot in
Alaska.
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Isolated? What a hoot!!! Try some research fool. Start
at
the Fraser Institute. Surely you've heard of them. They're
in
Canada.
I know all about the Fraser Institute. LOL. Now perhaps I
have at least a
partial explanation of where you are getting these crazy
ideas. The
secondary name for the Fraser Institue is "I wish George W.
Bush was the
Prime Minister of Canada." Asking what the Fraser Institute
thinks about
Canadian Health Care is like asking the NRA for objective
advice on
handguns. Only worse! ROFL
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They are but one. But nice to see your ideology won't let
truth get in your way. Keep trying fool, maybe someday you'll
learn something other than your brainwashed opinion.
Heehee. You are so silly.
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Teehee, and you are still an ignorant buffoon.
All it manages to do is promote a
have vs have-not conflict.
?