"BCITORGB" wrote in message
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rick: clearly apologies don't work with you. Are you that angry
and
that bitter?
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I never saw any from you that meant anything. The anger and
bitterness is all yours it appears. It is you and kman that
apparently cannot accept some criticism of anything not American.



You've been on about jingoistic breast-beating etc, so I
thought I'd
come clean.

There are problems with the Canadian healthcare system. There
are
escalating costs. There are localized shortages. There are
areas of
inefficiency.
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Then why all the buffery about there being no such thing as long
waits? Kman insists that there are not. I would think that your
diatribes should be directed at him. But, since he spews the
typical anti-US stuff you like to hear he gets a free pass on
idiocy, eh?



And, there is an on-going national dialogue about how to deal
with
these issues.

Some, like the Fraser Institute you seem keen on citing, point
to the
American model as the one to emulate.
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That's news to me. I never sawe any of their people claim that
the US system is the madle to shoot for.


Now I suspect Canadians might be
persuaded to go this route if it looked like a better system.
Unfortunately, that does not appear to be the case. On most
major
health metrics (infant mortality, life expectancy, etc etc),
the USA
does not show well. Then, on measures of cost, the USA does
particularly poorly. From an efficiency perspective, the
American
system thus really sucks -- higher costs get you lower results.
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That's why so many Canadians are crossing the border for
treatment, the high costs and inefficinsies?



Please, rick, why would any sane person (nation) opt for the
American
system? Oh, yeah, of course, the answer is obvious: rather than
wait a
couple of days for my MRI, I can get one within the hour. Of
course,
that trumps everything else!
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Again, no where in any of my posts have I claimed the US system
is best. Again, your chest thumping about being #30 doesn't
quite have the ring of greatness kman and you are alluding to.
Waiting 2 years for an mri may or may not have an impact on your
overall health, but if it detects a problem soon enough it may
have saved you.



Further, it appears your system can't reconcile prices with
quantity (a
fundamental for a free economy) -- high prices for doctors has
not lead
to increased quantity (and subsequent lower prices). This would
seem to
be a huge flaw that needs ironing out. Scott Weiser seems
unable to
exlain this. rick, perhaps you're up to the task.
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Why? I've never stated that that was an intention, nor claimed
it was the system to emulate. The problem was that you and kman
are pushing a system that you have failed to explain as being a
system to emulate, even though you make statements that indicate
you think it is.




Eagerly anticipating your retort,
frtzw906