True the official recount was stopped. I view this as unfortunate because it
has led to this argument. Several major groups have done the complete
recount and by using the laws as set forth in Florida at the time of the
election, Bush maintained a very slight edge in each. That is not the same
as if the court had ordered a statewide recount but it is what we are left
with. One of the reasons the court ordered a stop to the count was because
the request was only for targeted areas that would have favored Gore. If the
request was for the entire state, the recount may have had a chance of going
forward. In my view this should have been the course of action taken.
Unfortunately the court answered yes or no on the question of a targeted
recount. They should have sent it back to the lower court asking that the
request be amended to include the whole state.

"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article K53Sd.37676$t46.25480@trndny04, No Spam at
wrote on 2/20/05 11:42 AM:

just after Bush stole his first presidency.

Bush won the election by every recount so far - have you found a
different
result? I would like to see it. I am not some blind follower of Bush but
I'm
getting tired of this stupid "Bush stole the election" crap. What
happened
in Florida was absurd, but the result has been verify many times.

???

Perhaps you are unaware that the the Republicam members of the Supreme
Court
stopped the recount.

As to what every recount so far has to say, it depends on who you ask. For
every http://www.bushwatch.com/gorebush.htm there's a
http://rightwingnews.com/john/tantrum.php





"Dave Manby" wrote in message
...
I always loved coming into the states - especially through Miami
Florida
just after Bush stole his first presidency.

You, a non American, are asked to fill in several forms with boxes to
fill. I always feel like asking if they want a tick cross or Chad and
who is going to count these and anyway they are a good reflection of
the
intelligence of the CIA terrorism controls and other forms of attempted
control. Among the questions you are asked are
1 Are you a member of a terrorist organisation?
2 Are you addicted to Narcotics
3 Were you a member of the Nazi party between xxxx and xxxx.
The rest are just as inane.
Apparently the reason for asking you these questions is so that they
can
do you for lying if you are caught!

It is no wonder the phrase dumb America has arisen!

Surely the answer to all this is to look at the cause of the terrorism
and attempt to answer the questions raised.

Palestine has for too long been ignored and it was not till many years
of terrorism that the rest of the world started looking at the plight
of
the refugees in Gaza and the other OCCUPIED by Israel territories. Al
Quaeda has its own agenda and maybe looking at the reason why they have
picked on the west in general and the USA in particular would help
solve
the threat for better than trying to impose Western ideals on reluctant
people. I would argue that this has created more terrorism than it has
prevented.


In message , Scott Weiser
writes
A Usenet persona calling itself Michael Daly wrote:

On 16-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

The fact that Canada accepts more refugees than the US (but then,
most
countries are more open to help others than the US) has nothing to
do with terrorism.

Unfortunately, you are mistaken.

Proof? Refugees come from around the world. Terrorists tend to
be well funded and arrive carrying briefcases.

No, they come looking like refugees, and acting like refugees, so that
they
can move about freely and without scrutiny.


One can get to Toronto without any scrutiny,

You've never arrived in Toronto from anywhere, right? There
is such a thing as customs and immigration. Canada's border
is _not_ open.

It's more open that it ought to be.


and then it's a short car trip across the border to the US

Which only proves that the US can't control its borders.

Well, "will not" is more accurate. We can, we just choose not to. You
wouldn't like it at all if we chose to. Neither would Mexico. That,
however,
is precisely what I (along with many others) are suggesting we need to
do.
You won't like it if we do.

Don't blame anyone for your problems.

I'm not blaming anyone, I'm merely suggesting that if Canada doesn't
do
its
part to prevent infiltration by terrorists, the US may have no choice
but
to
close the border, which will wreck your economy.

The 9/11 terrorists
arrived in the US thru US ports of entry, not thru Canada.

And yet other terrorists arrive through Canada. Case in point: the
terrorist
with a vehicle full of explosives caught entering the US from
Vancouver
at
Port Angeles just prior to the Millennium celebration who planned to
blow
up
the Space Needle in Seattle. He was caught by an alert Border Patrol
agent.
Others have certainly slipped in from Canada as well.


--
Dave Manby
Details of the Coruh river and my book "Many Rivers To Run" at
http://www.dmanby.demon.co.uk