"Joe" wrote in message

Mooron has the poorest
excuse ever...1" of ice Bwahahahahahah on his bay. RedCloud would just
crunch thru that like a hot knife thru butter if I wanted to sail.

There is no way in hell you would move that rust bucket through a kilometer
of ice up here my warm weather, inexperienced, buddy! . Pan Ice is one
thing..... shore to shore frozen seawater at an minimum of 2" thick is
another matter altogether!

You seem to forget that Overproof was in the Arctic for over ten years
before moving here and she has seen a lot of ice in her days. Even with your
engine at full throttle you'd be drove up and stalled on progress within
your hull length. You need to ride up over the ice and use the weight of the
vessel to break it. Your boat cannot do that without a big increase in HP or
some alteration of your entry. Under Sail?? .... It'll never happen.

BTW - someone down the road here has a steel hull sailboat for sale..... it
looks to be about 45 ft with a fin keel. I believe it has the deck but no
cabins. I'll take a photo and post it to my webshots.

CM