Billgran wrote:
"del cecchi" wrote in message
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The suzuki 4stroke 140 is 410lb, the Evinrude 135/150 is 419lb
(4 cyl. motor vs. a V6)
The suzuke 200/225 is 580lb while the Evinrude is 524lb
...and how much does the Yamaha F225, Honda 225, and the Merc Verado
225
weigh compared to the Evinrude V6?
Bill Grannis
service manager
Now Bill, I was just refuting your generalization that the Bombardier
motors were lighter than 4 strokes. And I don't have the motor guide
out of bass and walleye boats handy.
The Yamaha 115 and merc version also aren't much heavier than my 115
carb'd two stroke as I recall.
And why should I want a V6 Evinrude instead of a 4cyl Suzuki? What's
the big deal with the V6? Cars used them (4 stroke of course) because
they reused much of the tooling and parts for the V8s that already
existed. And apparently 2 stroke inline 4s have issues leading to
bizarre solutions like the 2+2 on my Merc. But the 4 in my accord is
just peachy, as is the one in my CB750.
So, what is superior about the Evinrude 135/150 as compared to the
Suzuki ?
Ok looked up the yamaha. The 200/225/250 are 580-590 lb. The 150 is
466 lb.
So looks like maybe 50 lb over the Evinrude. Is 50 lb a big deal?
What is the relative selling price?
If I was shopping I would buy a 4 stroke at this point in time.
del cecchi
Del,
My "gerneralization" on wieght was meant for engines with the same number
of cylinders, mostly the popular 200hp range and higher. The midrange motors
70-175 are a mix of 3,4, and 6 cylinders and can't be compared that way.
What year CB750? I had a CB750 K2 that I rode for 27 years, even when I had
Harleys, too. Sold all kinds of parts, hop-up stuff, repair kits, etc. on
Ebay last summer. I couldn't believe the prices the people paid and the
interest in those old bikes.
Your other post mentioned information dribbling out about DFI motors, all
that is open knowledge in boating magazines, Internet forums, Industtry
publications, Industry news sources, etc. Ask away if you have any specific
questions, you know my credentials and credibilty after all these years.
Bill Grannis
service manager
It is a 1976, been sitting for a few years now. My retirement project :-)
I heard a lot of rumors that the early 150's didn't do so well, on this
group and on the Bass Fishing board at wmi.org or whatever it is. But
the magazines I read, like Bass and Walleye Boats (which I really like),
just pretended it wasn't happening. And the folks I talked to at the
boat show..... they just gave me blank looks.
Maybe Industry Publications or other specialized areas had some
information, but I didn't see it. And I've been reading rec.boats
starting in 96 or 97 when I was shopping for my Lund.
So here is a blunt question: If one bought an early Ficht 150, what was
the likelyhood that one would have had major problems with the
powerhead? I have heard the big blocks were better, what is the
comparable number for them? And what had the rate dropped to by the
time of the OMC bankruptcy?
I am, just to satisfy my curiousity, trying to understand whether indeed
2 strokes are barely feasable and direct injected two strokes have
fundamental problems that doom any attempt to make them work reliably,
or whether quality problems, whether isolated or pervasive, caused the
appearance of a flaw.
I heard stories of sooting. I heard stories of poor quality assurance
when switching supplies for parts. But I certainly wasn't in the story
flow. So what is your opinion as to the root cause of the problems?
del
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