You are being purposely closed-minded. I still am asking you to
describe one situation where if both sailboats are following the
sailing rules why would Rule 13 ever come into play.
Since you have not and cannot, I stick by my statement that
given the three sailing rules and given they are being followed,
Rule 13 is superfluous.
CN
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...
Capt. NealŪ wrote:
"Wally" wrote in message ...
"Capt. NealŪ" wrote in message
Good point but it is physically impossible for a sailboat to windward to
stay out of the way of another to leeward if the leeward vessel is more
weatherly. The windward vessel cannot point higher to avoid the
leeward vessel. He cannot fall off without creating a close quarters
situation, and he cannot speed up or slow down because those things
depend on the speed of the wind. These facts alone negate rule 13
which works well for motor vessels but not for sailing vessels. It is
plain
to me if one follows the sailing rules then rule 13 is superfluous.
The vessel to windward is not neccessarily close-hauled, it's merely the
vessel which is upwind of the other. The reason he is the give-way vessel is
because he has a better chance of maintaining full control because the
downwind boat may be in his wind shadow - the downwind boat may not be able
to maneuvre out of trouble.
I disagree with you. I say the reason the windward vessel in an overtaking
situation is the give way vessel is precisely because he has more options.
Total nonsense. There are many cases where the rule are arbitrary. You can't change them because you think they make more sense
another way!
He has more options up until the time the overtaking vessel is abreast of him,
that is. Therefore it's incumbent on the windward vessel to take action to
avoid a close quarters situation.
Once again, demonstrating why its obvious you never passed the test!
This all begs the question of at what point does an overtaking situation
actually start? Where does the sailing rule end and the overtaking rule
take over.
The sailing rule doesn't take affect at all. The windward/leeward rule doesn't apply if one of the vessels is overtaking. You
might be able to create an ambiguous condition where two vessels are converging and it isn't clear if the windward vessel is
overtaking, but Rule 13 resolves that with:
(c) When a vessel is in any doubt as to whether she if overtaking
another, she shall assume that this is the case and act accordingly.
I say it never does unless the windward vessel fails to follow
the sailing rules and creates a close quarters situation. The entire point
is rule 13 is superfluous if the sailing rules are followed.
That's why you never could have passed the test!
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