On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:21:41 +0100, "Tomek"
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:
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Tough love here....
There are two parts to boats; building and buying. They are usually
vastly different kettles of fish.
I AM NOT SAYING DON'T BUILD. I unserstand the need in some guys. Been
there, on a smaller scale, several times.
* a 55ft boat is quite large, unless you are planning a family
liveaboard (and that's another story again). Most guys build 35-40ft,
that I saw when building in amateur boatyards.
* your cost request means little if we don't know where you are.
* have you built _any_ boats? If not, either do so, starting small, or
walk away.
* have you _sailed_ boats?
* Do you want to build or use a boat?
* Have you checked the 2ndhand market? You will not build cheaper. You
can make a reasonable purcahse and sell it if circumstances permit.
* 10 years is not "taking it easy" on aboat that big. Someone
mentioned 15000 hours. That's 3-4 years of 10 hour days by a _skilled_
worker.
* do you realise how much that boat will keep you poor, if you have to
keep it in good condsition until you retire? I estimate maybe 10% (?)
of built cost, average, per annum. It may only be 5%. But that's still
a lot of money. Don't worry about "your time", because you can be time
poor as well.
If you really want to _BUILD_ a boat, and have already done a few more
modest projects, then go ahead. I understand the feeling and would
never stand in your way.
But don't expect to save money, or time, or to be sailing. Do expect
to get hated by anyone close to you. Do expect to either be very
careful, or to be injured or health-affected in some way by the
project, mentally or physically. Do expect to get thoroughly
disheartened halfway through. be ready to be honest enough to realise
when you are beaten, and then be ready for somebody to buy from you at
a bargain, if at all.
If you want to own and _use_ a boat, buy one. Go through all the
costings, then start saving money into an account at the rate you
would have spent on the boat. I bet you can buy one before you would
have finished building. Buy a house and rent it out. Sell it ten years
from now and buy a boat G
-How much is to buy a 55 ft alloy hull of a blue water cruiser for further
development (just hull, pure alloy no equipment)?
-How much is to equipe it only with wooden furnitures?
-I ask because its easy to find prices for electronics, engine etc. but
couldnt find any information concerning above.
-How meny % can be saved or wasted on buying things separately and commision
experts to put things together and doing minor works myself
I am 29 and would like to spend my 40th birthday on the yacht which will
become my home when I`ll retire. 11 years is plenty of time and I am not in
the hurry
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