"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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Um, does the rubbish below somehow exonerate American torturers?

It's the "lookie there!" defense/logic of a good many people on the right.

"You think you caught a Republican pulling some dirty crap? We won't even
discuss that, but instead we will switch the subject to Clinton's blow
job.
Lookie there! Lookie there!"

"You think some aspect of conservatism doesn't stand up to logical
scrutiny? We
won't even discuss that, but instead we will
throw some wacky iberal idea up for discussion and redirect the
conversation.
Lookie there! Lookie there!"

"There's a chance or an allegation that a tiny percentage of our miltary
personnel are not behaving like professional soldiers in Iraq? We
certainly
won't adress that either, just point out that the behavior of the regime
we
feel consisted of despicable intolerable, inhuman *******s did even worse!
Lookie there! Lookie there!"

There is no doubt that we have been regaled with all the gruesome details
of
hideous abuses committed by many of Saddam's interrogators. Personally, I
believe those stories have some foundation in fact.

There is also no doubt that the actions of our own *worst* actors will be
cast
as typical American tactics and indicative of
American philosophies and values. The pendulum swings both ways. If we are
as
truly civilized as we aspire to be, we should try to see that our own
*worst*
actions aren't all that bad, and that stories of atrocities and torture by
Americans do not have a foundation in fact.

When the military justice system is arresting and charging US
interrogators who
step over the line into torture and sadism, the system is working about as
well
as we can hope.



Oh, BULL****! Chuck. They have been arrested, the allegations are being
addressed. They are innocent until proven guilty. Your illustrious Clinton
Regime used the same tactic, except for the bright light, on a whole bunch
of people before burning them up in Waco. You liberals all defended the
same tactics and also the lies that were used to bring in US Military tanks
(against the law, except for drug enforcement). The allegations are being
addressed. This is not a Mai Lai type situation. They are not accused to
beating, electrifying parts of the body, raping his daughter / wife in front
of him. The fact that they have been arrested, shows the military is
addressing the boundries of conduct.
Bill