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in article , Steve
Cramer at wrote on 1/15/05 7:44 PM:

Tinkerntom wrote:
Michael Daly wrote:

On 15-Jan-2005, Melissa wrote:

Is it bravado? Or can it simply be an appreciation of life?

It's definitely not bravado for me. ...snip

MikeD and Melissa, when I spoke of bravado, I was not referring to
MikeD, but to Sparks and his OP.

Sparks wrote:
"Some friends and I are thinking about doing some winter time kayaking.
This will be the first time we have paddled in the cold water Indiana
..pretty chilly right now). " ...snip

Nothing is mentioned of their skill level, or trip planning and gear
preparation, except to say that it is first time in cold water. Sounds
like newbie bravado to me to think they have any business going
paddling at this time and under these conditions.

Excuse me? Bravado? Sparks has kayaked in warmer weather and now asks
for some advice about winter kayaking and that's "newbie bravado?"
Bravado is going out with ignorant confidence (or confident ignorance)
into sketchy conditions, not sitting in a warm house and asking for advice.

Steve

FYI...Tinkerntom often gives a pill a headache.