Dave Hall wrote:
Better translation: Dave Hall doesn't want to get dragged into another
senseless "debate" with someone who is just looking to pick at nuances
while ignoring core principles.

You mean like the core principle that a gov't which deliberately uses
torture as an instrument of state cannot be good?



If he were truly interested in seeing the truth, he would indeed "look
it up".

Look up what, Dave? The fact that the ACLU has defended the civil
liberties of people you'd rather see locked up for life without trial...
maybe tortured?


Independent thinking? Yea, I'd say that's a positive value.


The problem is that your idea of "independent thinking" means
goose-stepping along with the current gov't... the most secretive, most
destructive of Constitutional rights... and coincidentally, heavily
profiting from the "war on terror"... of any in US history.

DSK