Too stupid to just post the link? Here... let me show you how...
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"John Deere"  wrote in message
news:bHV0ZWZpc2s=.5738ef93abbe8a494ac6712fcb97b775  @1104868162.nulluser.com...
 http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/02/in...ner=ALTAVISTA1