Um, does the rubbish below somehow exonerate American torturers?

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In article , Hudsucker Industries wrote:
It's funny that sleep deprivation and prolonged standing is considered
"torture" when compared with the way the Iraqis interrogated their Kuwaiti
prisoners: They have the man sit in the chair (tied) while soldiers rape
his wife/children, then cut their heads off. Then they stick electrical
probes in the man's anus/mouth and electrocute him slowly until he
dies--they really don't need answers, after all--it's all for their fun.

Please, get a life liberal journalists.

Sorry for the rant.

Rob


"Ignoramus30984" wrote in message
a.com...
Our local newsgroup imperialist Empress Otku claimed that we liberated
Iraqis from human rights abuses.

Turns out that it is difficult to rule an occupied country without
human rights abuses...

A highlight from a report on American torture chambers:

Aballey was hooded and handcuffed and made to stand or kneel facing a
wall
for nearly eight days while he was being interrogated, the report said.
He suffered from sleep deprivation because a bright light was placed
next
to his head while distorted music was booming from lounspeakers,
according to
the document.
His knees bled, and one his leg swell to the size of a football,
while his
father was held in the cell next to him and could hear his son's
screams, the
report said.

Full article follows.

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In article , AFP / Maxim
Kniazkov wrote:

WASHINGTON, July 26 (AFP) - Four US soldiers serving in Iraq have
been
charged with abuse of Iraqi prisoners of war and are awaiting a decision
on
whether they will face a court-martial, a defense official said
Saturday.
The charges mark the first time US personnel have been formally
accused of
mistreating Iraqi prisoners since the beginning of the US-led invasion
of Iraq
on March 20, the official said.
The names of the soldiers have not been released, but they are
reported to
belong to a military police unit that helped guard prisoners at Camp
Bucca,
near the southern Iraqi city of Umm Qasr, last May.
"They have been charged with Article 32, which is basically like a
grand
jury in civilian terms, based on an investigation into allegations of
mistreatment of POWs," Lieutenant Commander Nick Balice, a spokesman for
the
US Central Command, told AFP.
The charges are based on an incident that occurred at the POW camp on
May
12, the nature of which Balice would not disclose.
But other sources indicated the soldiers, two of whom are said to be
women,
are alleged to have used unwarranted physical force against the
prisoners.
Under Article 32 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, a commander
of
the unit where the alleged infraction occurred must have -- together
with
military prosecutors -- a hearing to review evidence and recommend a
further
course of action, according to defense officials.
"Certainly, there are several things that could happen," Balice
explained.
"It could be dismissed. It could be some other form of disciplinary
action. Or
it could a court-martial. It all depends on the determination."
He said no date for the hearing has been set.
The announcement of the charges came three days after the human
rights
group Amnesty International issued a scathing report, saying it had
collected
many allegation torture or ill-treatment by US-led coalition forces in
Iraq.
Iraqi inmates held at various US-run detention centers are subjected
prolonged hooding, sleep deprivation, restraint in painful positions --
sometimes combined with exposure to loud music and bright light,
according to
the document compiled by Amnesty monitors who have been working in Iraq
since
late April.
The monitors pointed, among others, to the case of 39-year-old
Khreisan
Khalis Aballey and his 80-year-old father, who were arrested at their
home on
April 30.
Aballey was hooded and handcuffed and made to stand or kneel facing a
wall
for nearly eight days while he was being interrogated, the report said.
He suffered from sleep deprivation because a bright light was placed
next
to his head while distorted music was booming from lounspeakers,
according to
the document.
His knees bled, and one his leg swell to the size of a football,
while his
father was held in the cell next to him and could hear his son's
screams, the
report said.
"Many of the coalition soldiers and military police engaged in law
enforcement do not have basic skills and tools in civilian policing or
to be
aware of the law they are supposed to be applying," said Curt Goering,
one of
Amnesty's monitors.
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