On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:22:53 -0500, thunder wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:18:30 -0500, JohnH wrote:


Nor from any legitimate news source. Methinks you're resorting to lies. It
is not becoming.

Medact estimates between 7,757 and 9,965 civilian deaths between March and
October.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...329608373.html

You should go read your sources.

Harry stated, "There also are reports from independent groups that upwards of
10,000 non-combatant Iraqi civilians were killed as a result of wounds or bombs
from US troops.

I accused him of telling a lie.

You made your statement above.

Reading the source of the data shows this for the city of Baghdad during the
period from April 14 to August 31:

"The morgue is said to record some 90% of "violent, suspicious" deaths in the
city. Currently about 60% and above of these deaths are the result of gunshot
wounds; this compares to approximately 10% pre-war. People killed by coalition
forces amount to an estimated 15-20% of gunshot victims brought to the morgue
according to a Newsweek report, but most of the violence is Iraqi-on-Iraqi."

Note that the great majority of deaths were "Iraqi-on-Iraqi" with only 15-20%
killed by coalition forces. Note also that these are not categorized as
"innocent woman and children."

These comments by Harry, supported by you, are intended to reflect badly on the
military and the administration, and are bull****.



John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD