On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:11:03 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:47:24 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


Dave Hall wrote:

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:30:57 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:



...this gal will be allowed to breed:

Teen sues over Confederate flag prom dress

LEXINGTON, Kentucky (AP) -- A teenager is suing her school district for
barring her from the prom last spring because she was wearing a dress
styled as a large Confederate battle flag.



So I take it, you oppose the first amendment?

Or is it that you only agree with it, when those views are in sync
with your own?


Dave


The confederate flag is an offensive symbol of white supremacy, racism
and slavery to millions upon millions of people.


Tough. Get over it.


Fashioning it into a
dress that you wear to a prom is as offensive as fashioning the Nazi
swastika into a dress you wear to a prom. Doing either is only meant to
inflame and to offend.


How do you know that was the intention - do you know this girl?


The appropriate place for either symbol is on a
pickup truck that some redneck pigs might use in Texas to drag blacks or
Jews attached to a chain to their deaths.


It's also a reminder of a disturbing war fought valiantly on both
sides.

It stand for much more than your narrow definition of what is
appropriate and what isn't.

And if you can't see that, then you aren't as broad minded as you like
to say you are.

Later,

Tom


I'm not one of those who romanticizes the south, either pre or post
Civil War, nor did I ever buy into the revisionism of southern
"sympathizers" who claim slavery wasn't an overriding issue of that war,
and whose ancestors spent some time afterwards lynching blacks, Jews,
and Catholics, and who even in the 1960s were resisting the most basic
of civil rights for all. And I'm not claiming the rest of the country
was "perfect" in the area of civil rights, either. But the south set the
standard, as it were. There was nothing glorious about the old south,
not if you had dark skin, and that one fact, slavery and the desire to
continue it, negates any concept of "valiant" behavior on its side.

If you ever want to read about the "righteous" North sometime, look up
Frederick Douglas's experiences in the shipyards of Baltimore and his
time in Mystic Connecticut.

Then come back and tell me about "valiant" behavior.

You may not understand it, you may not want to understand it and
that's fine. But the men who died for a cause have every right to be
remembered, their history, lives and sacrifices celebrated as their
descendants choose - not at the dictates of some individuals who have
their PC undies in a bunch.

Later,

Tom