LaBomba182 wrote:
Subject: albin 28 flush deck
From: "K. Smith"


LaBomba182 wrote:

Subject: albin 28 flush deck
From: "K. Smith"


Just accepted what the seller told them & of course given that a big
part of the marketing is super low fuel consumption .........



The boat was privately owned and the owner apparently had no problems with

the

numbers.

How would the owner know??


Your kidding, right?



save you properly test how would any owner
know how much fuel per hour their diesel is using at "cruise".

The

owners write mad testimonials about this stuff all the time doesn't make
it true, just confirms they were silly enough to fall for it in the
first place, so .............




And like I said. I looked at a 26' Shamrock with a 300 Cummins in it and

the

owner said he got 7 gph at 26 kts as I recall.

Yeah yeah I went to school with a girl who had an uncle that knew a
bloke who lived down the road from the son of ............. Gee a
"capt." no less should be able to better than this:-) Nothing but
nothing, beats reviewable actual test methodology used & repeatable outcome.


So, show us some that proves you right.



So NOYB had a patient who claimed 18 on 13 gals/hr which is nearly 20%
more than your claim of 11 at 40 mph:-) NOYB may have (oops sorry)
"have had" bad teeth:-) but I bet he's a little bit closer to the mark
than your seller spruiked magazine BS. His claim is around 230HP which
is about right for continuous running of this engine. Probably got his
teeth fixed because he smiles all the time now:-)



And, instead of just calling this all a big boating magazine & manufacture
conspiracy, prove them wrong with some real world fuel flow data?

I don't have to prove anything


And your doing a fine jod of it.



I'm not the one making totally over the
top claims that if true would mean diesel engines as we know them have
suddenly made a quantum leap in fuel economy & I suppose emissions
output???? wow what a relief!!! Thanks for telling us "capt."

Here are some links which should "prove" even to a magazine dreamer
like you capt. just how ridiculous the claims are, I've chosen some that
are in the HP ranges we're discussing but feel free to come back with
anything remotely like 315HP on 11usgal/hr, diesel or petrol I'm fair if
nothing else:-)

So let's be absolutely clear here our base line is your claim of 315HP
= 11 usgal/hr (0.034 usgal/hp/hr) & the equally absurd 30 mph cruise on
6-7 usgal/hr that's a 28ft cabin boat cruising at 30 mph on 105 -
120HP!!!! Are you so inexperienced that this seems even remotely right
to you????


It's not MY claim you dolt!

It's interesting that you feel the need to take this discussion to a personal
level.


http://www.gce.cummins.com/mce/mce_4...curves_4.2.htm

320HP = 18-19 usgal/hr (0.057usgal/hp/hr)!!! But pick any you like capt.
similar size engine etc. Gee what slackers those world leading Cummins
people must be??? it seems they burn 18-19 usgals/hr when your bloke is
only burning 11 for 315HP!!! that's just under 40% more fuel efficient
HP for HP wow!!!!!!!

http://www.cat.com/cda/layout?m=53580&x=7

355HP =18 usgal/hr (0.050 usgal/hp/hr) But again pick some others &
remember these Cats are now proper slow diesels, fuel use wise about as
good as it gets in our pleasure boat world.

http://www.perkins-sabre.com/PR/Engi...erformance.cfm

275HP = 15.3 usgal/hr (0.055 usgal/hp/hr)

Notice a pattern at all capt.??? it seems your bloke's claim is not
just a marketing fudge; it's well out of order!!!! Damn this is of
chuckster proportions 0.03 vs 0.05 gal/hp/hr:-) Believe what you like
capt. no real harm done I guess, the closest you'll get is like Krause;
your magazine articles & dreams.


Interesting that all manufactures are liars till what they claim seems to back
you up.

Capt. Bill

So you admit they do back me up then???? which of course they do.

I said the magazines were so inexperienced they thought they could
publish clearly wrong figures & I pointed out that Yanmar themselves
specifically DON'T publish any claims related to that motor, indeed the
sellers & magazines depend upon the public not getting any proper
information.

The Cummins, Cat & Perkins references just give the numbers which
confirm it takes about 18-20 usgals/hr to make 315HP so the claims no
matter who actually made them are false & grossly so.

Again lest there be any chance you still don't get it, a 28ft cabin
boat doing 40 mph on 11 usgal/hr is just marketing BS & anyone who wears
it is confirmed as not having much boating experience, the magazines,
you & the NG non boating idiots brigade wore it.




K