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K. Smith
 
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LaBomba182 wrote:
Subject: albin 28 flush deck
From: "K. Smith"



LaBomba182 wrote:

Subject: albin 28 flush deck
From: "NOYB"



"fishless" wrote in message
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I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with the 315
yanmar?


I had a patient tell me that his Albin 28 cruised at 18 knots with a burn
rate of 13 gph. I found those numbers hard to believe, but amazing if


true.

Let us know.


A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a jack


shaft

does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph.
And 40 mph top end burning 10 - 11 gph

Capt. Bill



Come on Capt. you????, not Chucky of course but ...... :-)

Approx 6-7 gph??? is this one of those Chucky help make a sale "approx"



gals?? or a standard US gal???

Best you get some references where Yanmar themselves have publicly made



claims anything like that, they haven't I can assure you they'd get well
sued, probably by Cat or Cummins etc:-). The best you'll find are vague
"testimonials" about this & that, never any proper numbers.




I just looked at the Powerboat Reports Sept. 2004 issue where they tested one
and
they saw 22 knot cruise at 7 gph. And a max speed of just a tick over 30 knots
and max gph of 12.


Well then post the link, I'll be most interested to see how they
verified the fuel consumption, particularly as they're saying they
"know" at cruise & max.

Absolute crap they're just parroting what the seller says & the seller
is .... well selling.

"If" these engines really do make 315HP (very, very, skeptical) then at
"max" that engine will be drinking a min of 18 usgal/hr but more likely
well over 20 gal/hr, if not then all the big diesel manufacturers have
been wasting their time & huge amounts of money trying to get lower fuel
usage, when all along the engine in their weekend bush basher was
getting better than their millions spent on improvements of 1 or 2 grams
per HP per hour.




The boating magazines print this type of nonsense all the time,
everyone knows they're inexperienced simpletons, but it's well out of
order for the manufacturers to even allow such false marketing BS to
remain uncorrected.



Yeah, yeah and they're all published on a grass knoll.


Gee you have the front or ego or both:-) to put "capt." in your sig yet
you fall for this marketing nonsense?? You better get some real boating
experience or are you just another Krause style magazine dreamer???:-)


These engines are a converted Toyota Landcruiser diesel (hey great news



for Landcruiser drivers!!! you too need never buy fuel again:-)) & if
run continuously above about 250HP for more than a very short time will
drop their fuel consumption to nil:-) so you can forget all about the
mystical "top end burning" in gph terms for even 1 straight hour:-).

However even if 11gph were true it raises a much more difficult
question, fore it would mean these engines are only making about 180-190
HP flat out!!!; sad really when they're marketed as 315 hp diesels.

If that engine really is using say 7 USgal/hr it's probably not making
much more than 120HP so you now have a diesel powered 28 ft boat, what
4-5 ton???,



6800 lb dry.


Again are you really going to accept this nonsense?? 5600lbs dry which
is still optimistic but with no anything, no engines drives liquids etc
etc etc yet you swallow this??? 4 tonnes is probably about right or you
can just magazine dream on.

Again with trailer boats (this is) how hard is it for them (magazines)
to take it to any public weighbridge & have the numbers actually checked
in the condition it's so called "tested"?? well that wouldn't be good
for sales would it???:-)


"cruising" at 30 mph on 120HP??? & the same boat doing 40

mph on 190HP???? Curiouser & curiouser said Alice.

Be skeptical of the magazines they're the source of much false
information & those that then repeat it unquestioningly are only
demonstrating their own lack of experience.

Needless to say we even have one here who continues to write it even
though we've offered to run the numbers, so it follows it's just
marketing BS from BS'ers.



Instead of running the numbers, get one and hook up a flow meter and get back
to us.

It's certainly possible we do it all the time with diesels, but it's
not a simple thing to do & that's why your dumbo magazines think they
can get away with just parroting what the seller spruiks, as I said post
the link as to how they checked the fuel usage at the various speeds as
they claim????

I can assure you it's bunkum of the first order, but what is more
serious is you are so inexperienced you actually believe it!!:-)


Oops almost forgot, have a merry christmas or hanukkah if that suits


you:-)

I celabrate Festivus, thanks.

And by the way, were you perhaps molested as a young girl by a boat broker/ OEM
sales rep. selling magazine subscriptions by any chance?


"Capt" I love it!!! capt gullible I bet you sit in the armchair with
your magazines wearing a capt. cap:-)

K

Capt. Bill