Shen44 wrote:
Subject: Rules of the Road Question #6
From: Nav
Date: 12/8/2004 5:55 PM Pacific Standard Time
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Shen44 wrote:
Subject: Rules of the Road Question #6
From: Nav
Date: 12/8/2004 5:24 PM Pacific Standard Time
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No, fishing is a class of vessel unto itself, it is not RAM
Not totally correct. (read rule 3 d.)
A fishing vessel (or to be totally correct a vessel engaged in fishing with
nets, lines, or trawls which RESTRICT maneuverability) is like a
minesweeper.
It does not show the normal lights for a vessel restricted in it's ability
to
maneuver, but instead, it's own special lights which not only tell you of
it's
status as restricted in it's ability to maneuver, but also, for what
specific
reason it is restricted.
A "fishing vessel" is in the RAM group, but lit differently.
It does not carry the day shapes nor lights of a RAM. Therefore it is
not a RAM. It is a special class that is specifically dealt with by it's
own rules -it is a vessel fishing and that is all. That is why it is
mentioned thus:
"(c)A vessel engaged in fishing when underway shall, so far as possible,
keep out of the way of:
*
(i)a vessel not under command;
*
(ii)a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver. "
Cheers
Gonna handle two for one here.
You're worrying too much about the wording and not the meaning.
The fact that the rules do not include "fishing" in the RAM, does not mean they
are not RAM and in fact they state they are. What the rules do is to make
specific groups of vessels that are restricted in their abilities and seperate
them out by their lights and or dayshapes and degree of RAM ... ie. NUC, RAM,
Fishing.
In reality, they all have a problem which must be dealt with and recognised by
the basic powerboater, sailboat, etc. down the line.
The basic attempt is to give degrees of importance to their RAM and note that
some which may be considered RAM by a powerboater, may not be as RAM as a, say,
vessel engaged in underwater operations versus a fishing vessel.
This does not change the fact that they are RAM, it just alters the "pecking"
order of who does what, when, and in the case of the minesweeper and fishing
vessel, they change the lights.
Squirm all you want, but a fishing vessel is NOT a RAM in the terms of
the COLREGS. If it became a RAM it would have NOT have to give way to
vessels showing RAM lights and day shapes and would change it's lights
and day shapes accordingly. I really cabn't see why you don't understand
this unless it's to avoid admitting your error...
As for the diamond shape on the tow. The question was asking for the shape on a
semi submerged TOW. See rule 24g.
Yes, I wonder if you can read? Try rereading the question and the rule
and you will see that the diamond shape is for tows over 200m where the
question asked about tows under 200m
Cheers