Hello Harry,

You mean just like in WWII with "real help" coming only from our "real/true"
allies? (i.e., England, Australia, Canada)

Regards,
Franko

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 15:56:20 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:33:08 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:



JohnH wrote:


In case you've not yet run across these, I submit them for your
review. (from francesucks.com)

Now forget what we think.....here are some more famous opinions on
the
French from the last 100 years........


Next time there's a war in Europe, the loser has to keep France!!

If it weren't for the French, we would have lost the War of 1812...


I'm always mystified by this statement.

Just what did the French do to help up win the War of 1812?

Mr. Madison's war would have been lost but for the fact that at the same
time the Brits were fighting us, Napolean was giving them real problems
in Europe and on the high seas. Thus, the Brits were not able to
concentrate their forces on us. Even so, they won most of the early
battles, and chased us out of Washington, D.C. for a while. By the time
the Brits defeated Napolean, we had regained some ground a,d it was
bascially too late for the Brits to rally and run us down. There also
was Jackson's successful defense of New Orleans, which, interestingly,
took place AFTER the war of 1812 was over and a treat at Ghent was
reached.

Most historians believe that if the Brits were not tied up in a second
front, they would have wiped us entirely. That second front was
with...the French.


Under than logic, we might as well thank Russia for helping us during
the war of 1812 because they sucker punched Napoleon.

The simple fact is we should thank the British for helping us win the
War of 1812 because they were stupid and arrogant enough to enter into
a two front war which they couldn't win without OUR help in food and
other merchant supplies.

The French "helped" only by being dumbasses themselves.

Later,

Tom


It's a tad more complex than that.

I wonder if we'll recall the lesson there, that it is "stupid and
arrogant enough to enter into a two front war which they couldn't win
without" the help of the rest of the world?