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Keenan, Keenan, what are we going to do with such vitrol.
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As is often the case, I have no idea what you are talking about.

In another discussion, that I tracked down, you were stating that you
were not fluent in French, to which the response was that they doubted
you were fluent in English as well. I begin to wonder the same thing!
At one time, I thought you were Clueless in Canada, now I just wonder!

Sounds incredibly relevant Tom, whatever the hell it is you are talking
about now.

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look forward to having a reasonable conversation.

That would depend on whether or not you will be speaking within the
bounds
of reason.

Reason for one, may be madness for the other, but we can try!

Indeed.

We don't have to try, but yes, we can indeed try, if you would like?

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none of your business.


Keenan, if you post publicly, they become public business.

Let me restate.

While you are obviously free to offer comments on anything you see here,
the
idea that you might or might not come between myself and another, and
that
you will "let me work it out" with someone else is a rather pompous
offering, in that I never asked you to mediate said communications, not
did
I ever consider requesting such a contribution from you.

Keenan, Pompous? You should know about being pompous! As if I would
even want to mediate any communications for you. Retter was doing just
fine calling you the fool, and certainly did not need any help from
me. My only offer was to have a resonable conversation myself, with
someone that I thought was capable of entering into something more
than a ****ing contest. What you do with Retter, is your business, and
I am strictly hands off. There is no might about it, in the future,
you two are on your own.

Then why comment on it?

However
being civil, we turn away from someone ****ing in public, to allow
them their public indecency. I will be glad to allow you and any
others to continue your ****ing contest, but I will exercise my
privilege of not having to watch!

There are different forms of ****ing. I suggest your urine has soaked
this
newsgroup rather thoroughly.


And now, you get down and personal with me, and accuse me of soaking
this newsgroup.

You went first, Tom. I didn't introduce the ****ing, you did, remember?

Hardly, judging from your style, are you in a position
to judge. Check out the following,

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...rovided%2540ho

A discussion about inflation and oil prices? Geezus Tom, if you wanted to
establishing that I can act ****y when posting on usenet, I could have given
you a post ten times better than that one!

Who smothers news groups with there ****ing style? Claiming on one
hand to not be able to understand what is clearly said

Ah. So whatever you say, however you say it, the other person is at fault if
your intent is not both clearly understood and appreciated. Interesting.

and then
acting insulted because anyone would question your higher knowledge
and intelligence.

Are you talking about the time you babbled on about the meaning of
"extrovert" by chance?

Countering and contradicting every point make by
anyone and everyone. I wonder if that is what the experienced posters
were warning me about?

Oooo....the experienced posters were warning you, were they? Of what,
exactly? That I would surf all over the net trying to find out things about
you so that I could introduce unlimited irrelevancy into the discussion here
on rec.boats.paddle?

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totally miss, or should I say ignore the true meaning of my post.
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Yeah, great.

Lots of interesting reading, and you have some very creative friends,

http://www.geocities.com/herblovesje...magination.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/flamingpoul...kmanonlost.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/flamingpoul...manonlost2.jpg

It seems that many are confounded by your posting style, not just me!

Why does it seem that way? Who is confounded?

and I am trying real hard to give you benefit of the doubt, since we
have just met.

The benefit of what doubt?

Is cyberstalking part of your cultish personality?

Cyberstalking, again pompous on your part, thinking that I would even
care to stalk you. No, I was encouraged to research those who are
participating in a particular discussion.

Encouraged...by whom? Your cult masters? Is something controlling you, Tom?
If so, is there a chance for you to get away from them? How can we help?

Prior to that I had been
willing to take, and respond to specific statements made in a
discussion thread, at face value, independet of who was making them.

OK...

Obvious to me now, is that those who encouraged me to know my
atagonist, had probably had experience with the atagonist before. They
were probably trying to save me from a fruitless discussion.

It sounds like an awful lot of people are concerned about you, Tom.

I may be the fool, to think that there ever was, or still is hope for
a converstion with real content. But then this is the first time that
I have met you on this or any board, so this discussion has been more
of a curiosity to me than anything else. Cyberstalking, not a chance,
just getting my ducks in a line.

What ducks?

What makes Keenan tick? To get to know you as a person, not just an
impersonal post, disassociated from your environment, and all that you
contribute to that environment. I had no previous knowledge or
experience with you, so I researched. Next time, will be different.
Probably I will have to check out someone else. You will not be the
Belle of the Ball!

Resarching by googling in newsgroups is likely to be a very limited means of
getting to know someone, Tom.

Besides, there is that word you don't want to discuss, "cult." Is that
your last line of defiance, to throw that word into a discussion, like
a grenade. A power word, from which I should just run and hide, and
coware because Keenan used the word "cult." Sorry, doesn't work for
me! Nice try, but you are going to have to find something else,
bigger, better, faster, stronger, Man of Steel.

Tom, I can promise you 100% that I was in fact certain that you would not be
the least bit troubled by it.


And if that escapes your ability to
comprehend, you also miss the sincere spirit in which I wrote. I
do
not find my stability in question, but you are the one that
presents a
less than desirable character to be discussing a serious subject.
Are
you contrary, for the sake of being contrary, or in the American
Indian sense of the word, if you know what that means?

You've lost me with the American Indian comment.

Some people are contrary just to be mean! However, particularly in
the
Souix tribe, there was a group identified as "Contraries".

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That's all very fascinating, but in a fashion that seems typical for
you,
you have failed to consider that it may be you who is riding
backwards!


Again you are correct, as I may appear to be riding backwards to you.

Or, you may in fact be riding backwards.

It did not take Einstein to figure out that all is relative, the Souix
had it figured out a long time ago.

Yes, a clever bunch.

And some with higher education, haven't figured it out yet! Go figure.

Not surprising in the least.

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Have you ever worked for a carpet cleaning company at which time you
went by
the name "Tanya?"

Tanya sounds like a character, but no, I have never worked for a
carpet cleaning company, and I am not Tanya.

You may wish to google on Seinfeld episodes in order to understand this
reference.

Well my education continues, I will definitly Google Seinfeld.

Excellent!

In reading, I found that
you have quite a following, between Tanya, Louise, Sharon, and Sandra,
and almost 9000 post, you have made quite a name for yourself. I still
wonder what the secret is for such prolific postings, and that is just
on the usenet, to say nothing of the rest of your posting activity.

I tend to keep my posts a bit more to the point than yourself.

But then the point always remains. What is your point, here and
elsewhere?
What makes you tick? After 9000 post does anyone know, including
yourself?

It would depend on the topic at hand, Tom.

You must be the real superman to do this, and then carry on with your
regular schedule as Clark Kent! When do you ever get time to paddle?

Sadly, I did not get out much this year. My posts will no doubt go down
next
year as Julie and I are moving to the waterfront, and thus will surely
paddle on a frequent basis.

Hey, we're on topic, the waterfront move sounds great. I assume you
mean in Ottawa, what do you mean by water front. Do you have frontage
on a river or lake, or are you just close by? Either way it sounds
great, though I expect that it is pretty cold up there now, and not a
lot of kayaking today.

Our back yard (or front yard depending on one's perspective) will in fact be
on the Ottawa River. Very exciting. I intend to paddle until the water
freezes up, at which point a rink will be made and I'll play hockey on it
instead.

I googled Ottawa, to learn about your beautiful city, and exactly
where it is located. I know, another dumb American, but I am getting
smarter! I have really never traveled in NE US, so not real familiar
with the geography, and never been able to get to Canada. I can
visualize the St. Lawrence river, but it appears that Ottawa is
located off of the SLR. Are sea going ships able to get into the city
harbor? Does it stay free of ice, or does it ice up? I suppose it
would still be pretty cold water?

No sea ships. There are a number of areas on the Ottawa that are currently
impassible, although from time to time a plot surfaces to make it fully
navigable.

When you go kayaking locally, do you go in the Ottawa river, or one of
the other smaller rivers? Seems that dodging big ship could be very
exciting in a very small kayak. It appears that there is water
everywhere you look on the map of that area. You could probably kayak
forever and not see or go everywhere.

Tom, I thought you'd been to my kayaking website! Perhaps you should have
spent more time there instead of googling my participation on usenet.

Living here in Denver, on the High plains, which is basically a
desert, we have the reservoir, year around, but the river all but
dries up. Of course most of the WW kayakers go up in the mountains
rivers and creeks. But the last few years even that season has been
short, with continuing drought, and low water. There are some other
lakes up in the mtns, that I hope to check out with the Folbot, and do
some camping. But I definitely envy you with all your opportunities
close by.

Interesting...this is a pretty good whitewater area. I am a "sea kayaker"
myself so often a bit of a trip is in order to get full enjoyment.

Keep us posted, and I'll look for pictures and reports on your
website.

Now doesn't that feel much better?

I was aware that I wasn't feeling well. But if you feel, better, that's
good!

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being the first convert, all you have to do is start smiling!

I spend a lot of time smiling and laughing, but not everything I see is
funny,

Well welcome to the club, er I mean cult then. Now that we got two
members, we need to have a business meeting and come up with a name.
Not really, just joking!

Funny, Tom.

and serious issues require a serious response from those who believe
that it takes more than "more guns and/or more jesus" to make the world a
better place.

Now on a more serious note, just for you. I don't think, that I said
anything about guns, and two, I don't know that Jesus would make the
world a better place.

Sorry Tom, that was actually a generic comment.

I don't think I said that either. I would say
that Jesus would make you a better person. I do not believe that
religion would do anything for you or anyone, except make you feel
better maybe for a while. What Jesus offers is forever! Two totally
different issues. Religion in whatever form is man reaching up to
"God", Christianity, is God reaching down to man! How high can you
reach?


KOS Tinkerntom, aka KnesisKnosis, Life, Live it!

Tom, take it slow, you are sounding scary again.