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"F330 GT"  wrote in message 
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 Two stroke engines have always made more low end torque, both motorcycle 
and 
 marine. For one reason because the spark plug fires every revolution 
instead of 
 every other. 
 
If you compare engines based on displacement, what you say is true.  If you 
compare based on rated horsepower, it will be just the opposite.  For a 
given horsepower, a 4 cycle engine will have a lot more displacement to make 
up for the extra two cycles it has to go through before getting to a power 
stroke. 
 
 
 Engine horsepower is rated at the point of the torque curve where the hp 
 (torque x rpm) is the highest. Not at the maximum rpm. The torque (and 
 therefore the hp) ususally falls off very quickly at high rpms. 
 
This is true. 
 
 The grind of the 
 cam on a four stroke controls the torque curve and the maufacturer can 
move the 
 maximum torque up or down the band based on duration and lift. 
 
If you consider destroying the low end torque so that you can have a lesser 
peak at a higher RPM "moving the maximum" then I suppose this can be 
considered correct. 
 
 A cam built for 
 low end torque will suffer at high rpms while a cam built for speed will 
suffer 
 at low rpms. 
 
This is a simplification of a much more complicated thing.  The reason that 
torque falls off at higher RPM is because the engine can't breath.  One way 
of getting the engine to breath better is to open the valves sooner, wider 
and faster.  It is the "sooner" part of that process that screws up low end. 
It is usually the rate that the valves can open and close that limits the 
upper RPM limit of a four stroke. 
 
 
 Marine four strokes are not cam'ed for low end since they are 
 mostly used at the higher end of the rpm band. 
 
I doubt that.  When you mess up the low end, you also mess up the idle 
characteristics, which is important to most marine applications. 
 
 
 Two strokes generally have a much flatter torque curve. 
 
 
????  What two stroke torque curve have you been looking at? 
 
Find anyone who has ridden a two cycle motorcyle and ask them about the 
acceleration at low RPMs vs being "on the pipe". 
 
A conventional two stroke engine relies on the downstroke of the piston to 
pressurize the crankcase to force the air/fuel mixture around the piston 
into the cylinder.  Reed valves are generally employed to prevent the 
air/fuel mixture from backflowing through the carburator.  At lower RPMs, 
the reed valves are not as effective and the cylinder doesn't scavage as 
well.  As the RPMs increase, the exhaust momentum will actually help 
scavange the cylinder and the engine "comes alive".  In many cases, a 2 
cycle is just coming to life at an RPM where a 4 cycle is starting to fall 
flat. 
 
Rod 
 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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