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			How can you lie like this jaxie?   Don't you realize that from noweveryone knows you're a pathological liar and will never believe
 anything you ever say?
 
 JAXAshby the pathological liar wrote:
 jeffies, you finally admit the gates ar open on a an ebb tide,
 
 I said that from the beginning.  From the first, and many times after
 I've quoted from the Coast Pilot:
 "The lock gates and
 tide gates are constructed so that tidal action opens
 them to allow the current to set south through the
 canal and closes them to prevent water from
 Shinnecock Bay to flow back into Great Peconic Bay"
 
 but then state
 there is a huge difference in tide levels between the two bays.
 
 Yes there is - several feet or more at times, measured a few miles apart
 on opposite sides of the canal.  Anyone can look that up, but it seems
 beyond your skills or comprehension.
 
 
 think about it, jeffies.  you just stated that the current would *not* flow
 north.
 
 What part of "and closes them to prevent water from
 Shinnecock Bay to flow back into Great Peconic Bay" do you not
 understand?  I'm not making this up; this is the Coast Pilot, published
 by the US Coast Survey.
 
 
 
 jeffies, I have seen the current flow south on an ebb and north on a flood, the
 gates wide open..
 
 What you think you've seen is of no relevance here.  In addition to
 being a pathological liar, you have no understanding of how a lock even
 works.  It is doubtful that you would even know which way is north.
 And, it does not bear on the issue of whether the facility is a "lock."
 I've seen a lock wide open many times; they are still a lock.
 
 Perhaps if you posted a reference to back up your claim that this is the
 normal practice ... but you would never do that.
 
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