"Larry Cable" wrote in message
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snipCheck out Japan: for 45% of our cost they manage to have 50% of our
infant mortality and a 5% greater life expectancy.

Please note that there are other demographic elements that partial account
for
those numbers. If you will note that most of the countries with real low
infant
mortality rates are also countries with low immigrant populations and
highly
homogenous populations.

Umm, that boat won't float. What you said (if a country has low immigration
rates and homogenous populations, it has low IMR), implies that the
contrapositive is true, specifically that if a country has high IMR, it
should have high immigration rates and heterogenous population). Yet, none
of the top 30 infant-mortality rate countries meet those standards.

178.Madagascar 80.21deaths/1,000 live births
179.Azerbaijan 82.41deaths/1,000 live births
180.Lesotho 86.21deaths/1,000 live births
181.Benin 86.76deaths/1,000 live births
182.Uganda 87.90deaths/1,000 live births
183.Laos 88.94deaths/1,000 live births
184.Equatorial Guinea 89.02deaths/1,000 live births
185.Central African Republic 93.30deaths/1,000 live births
186.Guinea 93.30deaths/1,000 live births
187.Congo, Republic of the 95.34deaths/1,000 live births
188.Chad 95.74deaths/1,000 live births
189.Congo, Democratic Republic of the 96.56deaths/1,000 live births
190.Cote d'Ivoire 98.33deaths/1,000 live births
191.Zambia 99.29deaths/1,000 live births
192.Burkina Faso 99.78deaths/1,000 live births
193.Rwanda 102.61deaths/1,000 live births
194.Ethiopia 103.22deaths/1,000 live births
195.Tanzania 103.68deaths/1,000 live births
196.Bhutan 104.68deaths/1,000 live births
197.Malawi 105.15deaths/1,000 live births
198.Djibouti 106.96deaths/1,000 live births
199.Guinea-Bissau 110.29deaths/1,000 live births
200.Tajikistan 113.43deaths/1,000 live births
201.Mali 119.20deaths/1,000 live births
202.Somalia 120.34deaths/1,000 live births
203.Niger 123.64deaths/1,000 live births
204.Liberia 132.18deaths/1,000 live births
205.Afghanistan 142.48deaths/1,000 live births
206.Sierra Leone 146.86deaths/1,000 live births
207.Angola 193.82deaths/1,000 live births
208.Mozambique 199.00deaths/1,000 live births

These guys all have low immigration, and very homogenous populations.

I got no bone to pick with the rest of your post. :-)

--riverman


The other item to note is that we spend vast amounts on catastrophic care
for
terminal patients, especially elderly cancer and heart patients. Is that
true
in the socialized medicine countries?

The real problem is that corporate paid insurance has disconnected medical
care
from market values. Here is an example of what I'm talking about. Suppose
that
instead of health insurance you had grocery insurance. Now when you go to
the
store, since your cost is the same whether you are frugal or not, are you
going
to buy the chicken or ribeye steak?
Most people will by the ribeye, and stick to the brand names instead of
shopping for their best value.

In my industry there a many, if not most that are self insured. One client
of
mine required a minor but costly surgery that he would have to pay a good
portion of out of his own pocket. He actually shopped his doctors and
hospitals
and found that by having the procedure done at a smaller hospital about 30
miles away, he saved half on the procedure. Have anyone else here ever
done
that? We shop for value in are cars and boats, but go the the most
expensive
doctors.


SYOTR
Larry C.