"Bob Crantz" wrote

Yes, for even though you are unsaved (non-Christian), ....

Question is how would one know if he is "saved". For example, my brother
who is a Baptist minister claims that he could save a devouted Methodist by
dunking him clear under so presumably Methodists are not Saved. Nor,
according to him, are some sects of Baptists. Our other brother and sister
are Mormons. They believe that no others are saved because no other church
has devine authority. However, they do believe they can baptise and thus
save others by proxy - especially their ancestors. So when the Baptist & his
wife began hounding me I told him that I was sure that one or both of our
siblings had taken care of my salvation by proxy. They freaked out!! Did I
think the sib's had done the same for them? Almost certainly. Scared the
Baptists so badly it created a huge rift between the families and the
Baptists rushed off to get rebaptised after demanding that the Mormons never
ever do it again.

Bottom line is you are unsaved unless you are the right flavor of Christian,
and there is no way *you* can know what that is until it is too late. One
thing is certain. Neither the Catholic church nor any of the Protestant
churches that derive from it are sanctified because they are not based on
the teachings of the Savior. Saul, who changed his name to Paul to escape
Jesus' desciples who wanted to stone him for heresy, founded these churches
and estblished their doctrines even though he had never met or heard Jesus
speak and was declared a heretic by Jesus' own church. So you best look
elesewhere if you want to assure your salvation. Meanwhile, y'all aer
headed straight to hell for voting for G Witless Bush unless you own pet
rattlesnakes and can work yerself into a grand mal siezure by takling in
tounges.