Gould,

I never called you an asshole. I called you a bigot. The definition of
bigot is: "One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race,
or politics and is intolerant of those who differ." If you believe in
having a debate comparing and contrasting ideas and perspectives, why would
you ever say " Suburbia, the primarily lily white land of cultural
conformity". I disagreed, as one who did live in suburbia. I stated that a
large percent of those who live in suburbia were minorities. In your
bigoted mind, that could not be true. To validate your premise you said

" I recently attended a business function at a new, golf course community in
the Cascade foothills- about 20-25 miles from downtown Seattle. This place
is brand new. They are going to hold a PGA tournament there in 2005 or 2006.
The houses are all painted various shades of beige, all have the same
roofing, the same windows, etc. Two or three new sections are still under
construction, and all the $1mm plus houses are painted various shades of
beige. While I didn't go door to door and do a survey, I did see some
diversity while I was there... a number of minorities worked for the
catering company- (but I'll bet you a buck they weren't living in the
immediate community)." didn't go door to door and do a survey, I
did see some diversity while I was there... a number of minorities worked
for the catering company- (but I'll bet you a buck they weren't living in
the immediate community)."

Why do you believe minorities could not (or would not) live in million
dollar community?
Why would you comment about minorities who worked at the clubhouse, to
reinforce your premise that suburbia is lily white?
Why would you use a million dollar community as being representative of
suburbia?

Someone who is bigoted against blacks would use a similar argument.
" I recently attended a business function downtown. Since I normally don't
go downtown (the place is overrun by blacks) I took a wrong turn and ended
up in the ghetto. The place was falling apart, with drug dealers on every
corner. Trash littered the streets and their yards. Their houses were
falling apart. These people may not be able to afford a more expensive home,
but why do they have to live like pigs? I did see a few white people, but I
would bet you a buck they didn't live in that neighborhood. If black
people are our equal, why do they live in such filth? While I didn't go
door to door and do a survey, my guess is that every household had a family
member who is in prison. "

Your comments were bigoted, and I told you so. I find your comments to be
just as repulsive as those who believe minorities are inferior. I also
believe the minorities who live in suburbia would find your comments to
offensive.

Your response was to ignore our contrasting ideas and perspectives and
decided to start pitching dirty little insult turds




"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
It looks like you realize you have lost the debate and now are resorting
to
personal insults concerning my sentence structure and syntax.

No dice, Doc. When you introduce the concept "Gould is an asshole....." to
a
discussion you have broached a subject
over which there is little or any debate. Gould is an asshole. Operational
difference between Gould and some of the rest of the assholes here 'bouts
is
that he isn't a non-boating asshole trolling through rec.boats for
purposes of
picking fights with one specific poster and then expanding the mission to
include anybody who might seem slightly philosophically aligned with the
initial target.

Gould, this
is not the New Yorker. This is Usenet and it is common for people to jot
off quick retorts and they will make typos and/or grammatical errors.

It's more common for some than for others.

Sloppy grammar is a sign of intellectual sloth, at best, and wears
awkwardly on
those who presume to criticize others for their deductive reasoning
processes
and conclusions.

The fact still stands that you are extremely bigoted against those who
have
different beliefs or values.

Naw, just against other assholes like myself. Maybe a little moreso
against
intellectual weaklings who run out of ammo somewhere around the second
volley
and start pitching dirty little insult turds ( an emotional payoff
practice
suspected more frequently now to be the only reason they appeared to
engage in
debate in the first place) rather than comparing and contrasting ideas and
perspectives.