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On 11-Nov-2004, ospam (Larry Cable) wrote:

I am actually stating that there is a civil war happening in Islam [...]
Just because you don't want to recognize it doesn't make it any less
true.

Not much gunfire for a civil war. It is certainly true that there is a lot
of anti-western propaganda in those countries. However, that doesn't mean
it's a war and it doesn't justify the Yanks jumping in with guns blazing.

If you want to see a lot of propaganda, follow the US media.

What he really was is a threat to the Gulf Oil Supplies. Last
time I looked the world still ran on oil.

No more so than the US. Is that what this is all about- oil? That's what
a lot of folks have been claiming. Not me - but oil is part of it.

But Saddam continued to violate the Cease Fire Agreement, so why should
we not punish him for those violations?

Bush and his cronies said nothing about this before invading. Remember
my comments about honesty? You can't justify an illegal action after the
fact and expect anyone to take you seriously. You have to deal with
the facts of what was said and done in the first place.

BTW - the accepted way to deal with Saddam was through the UN... something
the US can't seem to deal with. This is part of what really frustrates
the rest of the world - the US always wants to have everything done their
way - no International Court of Justice, no Kyoto Accord, no acceptance of
NAFTA and WTO rulings against the US etc. If you want to live in your own
little world, then erect a big fence and stay inside. If not, you have to
learn to deal with others.

Oh come on now, how stupidly far back are you going to go back.

It isn't me, Larry - it's the Arab community in the Middle East. _They_ go that
far back, whether you like it or not. _You_ have to deal with that. Ignoring
it will not solve any problem. Acknowledging that will allow you to grasp the
magnitude of the problem.

BTW, I don't believe that the US participated in any of the Crusades.

Are you trying to claim that no US citizens have European roots?

OK. The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor,
does that justify me talking some stupid 12 year old into blowing himself up in
local toyota dealship?

Some folks have longer memories than others. It did take your country a long
time to deal with the interned Japanese-Americans. Both Americans and Japanese
are rich - money heals all wounds. Muslims counrties are filled with poor
people. Go figure.

Kurds were
slaughtered with American-bought technology

Bull****, back this up with some hard facts.

Go look up where Saddam got his helicopters for one.

Mike