On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 15:44:59 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 09:04:57 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

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We have greater wealth, greater opportunities, more satisfying
rewards, and the highest standard of living on the planet.

Europeans have a higher quality of life, and your counter is that there
are more opportunities to become obscenely wealthy here? That's your
rejoinder?

Oh...and we do not have the highest standard of living on the planet.




Because of this, this country attracts all sorts of riff-raff, which
can't cut it in our fast paced reward-for-achievement society, and
they end up in prison or on the streets. Perhaps if we were a bit more
selective on just who we allow to immigrate here, some of those
problems might diminish.

Wow!

There are a lot of Turks, former East Germans, and immigrants from
many other countries living in Germany and the Netherlands who would
disagree with your 'quality of life' idea.

John H


Indeed there are, but as I stated, many European countries offer a
higher quality of life than we have. Their residents live longer, they
have safer childbirth, lower infant mortality, better health care, more
vacation time, less homelessness, less crime, far fewer shootings, more
separation of church and state, more job retraining when jobs are
obsoleted, et cetera.

The quality of life in this country has slipped since the 1980s, and
slipped badly. We are not moving forward in the ways that matter.

Do the three million illegal immigrants each year get factored into
our statistics?

John H

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on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!