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Recobee wrote:
Ganz thinks so!

I think so if you're talking about the soldiers on the ground. If
you're talking about the upper-level of the military who don't insist
on having their advice heard, who pander to BushCo because they're
afraid of Rumsfeld forcing them out, then no.

I think not! Its time to face facts. Patriotism and a sense of duty have gone
out the window. How many of the young men that are now serving in the NATIONAL
GUARD, etc., are there because of a sense of duty? What percentage of them
expected they would be fighting and dying on foreign soil to protect their
country? How many women generals know what it means to dig out a bloody
victory? How many women MP's know how to guard prisoners?

I suspect that many did sign up because of sense of duty, and many
signed up for economic benefit. Doesn't matter. Both groups die the
same.

I suspect that many of them figured this was a weekend job, and that at most
they would be called out to help in some sort of national disaster, not have to
shoot and kill or be killed. I am upset when I see men and women, led by a
women general incapable of properly guarding prisoners. I am upset when I see
men and women refusing an order because they think it's to dangerous. I am
upset when I see men and women crying to mommy that their equipment isn't good
enough.

Seems to me that you are making assumptions about women in the
military. I don't have the complete facts about the specific female
general, but I believe she had her orders. She also gave a few
interviews wherein she disputed her "being in charge" of that part of
the prison.

Am I slamming the military? I suppose so. I know that there are a significant
number of hardass patriotic men that do in fact serve, but not enough of them.
And we really need to make every one serve, and every one learn just what it
means to be a patriot.

I agree. We need more. Kerry advocated increasing the size of the
Special Forces. Bush hasn't done much at all, except deny many of the
troops the equipment they need to do an effective, safer job.

That's not a football team in Massachusetts.

Neither is it in Texas.




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