Gould 0738 wrote:



Karen, if you're going to sit on the other side of the world and pretend to
take passionate positions about US politcal issues- please do so only after
reading a post with some tiny degree of accuracy, please.

Noted & I'll try harder just for you Chuckster.


Let's suppose for a nano second that this story is true, coming from
the left it's probably another lie.


The story originates with the Republican congressman who refused the bribe. I
have no idea how far "left" he is, but most people would probably assume that
as a Republican he is either moderately conservative or very conservative.

The "story" you write doesn't originate from the bloke & the way you
gleefully & somewhat brokerishly;-) put it;

I wish I lived in the home state of the brave
Republican who just fessed up that he was offered $100,000 in campaign
financing

Fessed up??? Don't you think that's bit too much?? I mean how does your
party keep renegades in their place??? A strike or an iron bar I
guess:-) (A joke joice) but of course as always, you had more;

How many
others accepted the bribe and voted for Bush's bill? You can bet we
won't be
hearing any complaints from them.

Well how many indeed?? Are you saying ALL boat brokers are spivs??? I
am if you want to know. But or course you felt you could infer the Pres
"might" be involved & hell hath no furry like a boat broker trying to
convince the world he's an honest person, except Harry of course:-)

If Bush was aware of
the bribes, he should be impeached.

"If" what you think that gets you off the hook?? You're so used to
deception you can't even see it. This was the management people keeping
a lefty within the ranks in line & how?? by stopping him passing his
seat on like it's his familys' personal possession. There was no "bribe"
it's campaigning funds which are doled out all the time on various
measures depending on how badly the management think they need to keep
him sweet & remember Chuckster, it's repubs' money they can "give" or
not give as they like or in this case dislike. They've been proved
right, he's now gone off with his campaign against the hand that would
be silly to feed him &/or his kid.

Was lefty Chuck done?? now sir reedy bob he had one last lefty BS line
twich was;

Shall we believe this was the *only* instance? Wouldn't make sense, as
the bill
passed by a comfortable margin.

Pretty sleeeeezy, guys.

Never occurred it was voted by elected representative?? no that doesn't
have the grassy knoll.

So there we have it Chucks confirmation that he thinks ALL boat brokers
are spivs & thank you very much for your efforts:-)




So you found some crooked repubs,
who then refused a bribe???


No. READ MY POST. I commended the Republican who refused the bribe for his
honesty. Where do you get this "crooked Republican" crap? I even said I'd be
proud to vote for a guy like that, and I would.

I got it from your post, here;

The rep was told by the
backers of Bush's bill that if he *didn't* go along and change his vote to
"yes", that the party would not only withhold the $100k bribe, but would
work
to insure that his son was defeated.

So?? I say you've found "some" (NB not "a") crooked repubs. who were
pressuring the sitting member, which is not even unusual.




gee the Clintons were into real estate
scams & it wasn't just the budget that got blown under Clinton's command:-)


So, what do you think wil have the greatest long tern consequences on a nation?
A blown wad or a blown budget?

The budget for sure, the way he was soft on the way out there loony
left & became part of the gangbuster boom times will last forever
brigade. Yep for sure Billy bob is right up there in the blame zone,
proper presidents have to make unpopular decisions for the good of the
country & Clinton didn't even have the bottle to play at home.


Can you imagine the state of the world, the world Chuck not just US, if
that Al had been elected??


Likely no 9-11.

This is you & Harry again running this line, it's BS. You can have an
opinion I guess, but there's just no evidence & given it did actually
happen & suddenly every single person was at risk, you should be
thankful Billy the charmer wasn't still in charge or even frighteningly
much much worse Al everybody's pal.


If there had been a 9-11, Gore would have hunted down the people responsible
for the crime and punished them.

Are there colours in your world Chuck??? Your top hunters, easily the
best in the world by a factor of 10s were aware of & after this bunch
for years & even now still haven't got them all. What Al from Alice in
wonderland would have "invented" the interdead & zapped them online???
Come on all that can be done is being done & if you were realistic you'd
see that maybe Clinton should have done more.

We're still waiting for OBL to be brought to
the net.
(I'm cynical enough to believe that event may be on "hold" until needed to
boost ratings in 2004).

See that's the difference the left would do that, but the right
wouldn't, because we haver investments & take risks with our own money,
creating jobs so you can levy over the top taxes, to squadder on dopey
programs which just happen to get you votes. So sorry it's not good
business to let him survive at all, if found he'll be killed, hopefully
soon.



The world owes the people of Florida a huge
debt of gratitude, well done to you all!!!


What do you suppose they did, Karen, that was so "well done"? (loaded question)

They voted enough to get the dems chucked & very good too.

Do you agree that punch thing was sort of darwinism at work??



I do note though that you're happy to try & besmirch ALL repubs because
of the behaviour of some??


Again, try to read a post before going into hyperdrive with your canned
reactions.
How did I besmirch the fellow I described as courageous, of high integrity, and
expressed a regret that I'm unable to vote for?

Oh come on Chucky you used his claytons "honesty" to besmirch all
repubs, because what?? he got the managements blow torch & nothing like
that ever happens with the left, gees they're the home of hatred.


The left; a boat broker so racked with guilt he now tries to palm
himself off as a caring socialist, all the while picking up a few bob
writing deceptive spruik pieces for low grade magazines (which we need


You're in high style tonight, lady.

Thanks, it's a giggle & I enjoy it:-)

You have no ability to discuss issues, so you resort to personal attacks on
those you disagree with. Statements like that
say much more about you than they do about me.

No I constantly give you, jps & the liar loon ample opportunity to tell
us what you say should be done, what your boy would have done had he not
lost fair & square & every time all of you just give personal abuse &
run away. So yes you're another empty box from the left, you mouth all
the right words & demand people hate a particular shop yet you have no
answers, you don't even appear to understand the questions.

You couldn't cram more lies into
a single run-on sentence if your life depended on it.

Come on Chuck the boat broker, who do you think you're fooling now,
I've been around a while too you know. Gees you haven't even stopped the
sell sell sell you put into your magazine articles, we have to
constantly fix them up for you, deceptive fuel claims, etc etc every one
of your reviews is just another puff peice as if you were selling the
article yourself.


The left; a boat broker so racked with guilt


Nope. Not at all. I made scores of friends and no enemies in the brokerage biz.

The first one I've personally ever heard of. You make the claim but
that doesn't make it so. Harry makes all sorts of claims & look at him:-).

Only stupid and pathetic people have to tell lies to try to be convincing.

That's no way to talk about your bum buddy Harry, although you're
correct of course:-)

You
should know that, you are an expert on lies.

I await the pastes & am always happy to stand corrected, I can tell you
I don't make "claims". I've been in business(es) over many years & I've
had many unhappy campers & if you think you don't it's because you are
in fairyland.

If you avoid lying, there is
nothing to be guilty about.

Chuck get this even your current magazine articles that you spam this
NG with are deceptive & I've pointed out how & where on numnerous
occasions. I know you don't see it but hey that's because ..... Geees
louise one boat put you in actual danger (again you don't see it) & you
were so scared dickless you came here & told us all about it, but of
course being a spruiker you just couldn't tell us the boat brand.

Not telling people relevant material is sometimes worse than a lie &
lots of statutes can land you in the tank for omisions.

Challenge: Name one person or transaction you are aware of where I should feel
guilty:

The articles about the failed steering at top speed (40+kts), which
turned out to be the wrong much too light steering system had been
fitted to save a few bucks, yet you maintained the Co line & still
refuse to give the boat's manufacturer, type, model or even local US
agent, so some poor sod with a family might have bought one on account
of your deception by omision.

You see it's about free choice Chuck you don't what's best for others,
that was probably symptomatic of that boat type in general & if you say
you're honest then don't be part of the coverup.

The BS fuel consumption figures on the little tug of course are
another, you tried to BS your way through that till a NY owner blew the
whistle on the fuel consumption lies.

You should feel guilty for at the very least helping to propagate
deceptions, but also ashamed that you try to present yourself as the
"honest" broker. (Are those words allowed that close to each other??)




he now tries to palm
himself off as a caring socialist,


Your second lie. I have never claimed to be a socialist.

I didn't say you claimed to be a socialist that's the last thing you'd
admit to, but you do palm yourself off as the caring lefty, telling
people how evil they are if they shop at a shop you don't approve of or
worse buy a chinese toaster!!

I don't live a
socialist lifestyle- rather far from it.

Well we did note that & pointed to you spending bulk dollars on an
imported engine while posting here about the evils of a shop that just
wants to offer the customers "free" choice. I was going to say nobody
forces anyone to buy the imported item, but hey too late you already have.

The majority of my income is generated
by ownership of real or intellectual property.

That's interesting any more details??? or are you talking about
copyright royalties??? If so then good on ya so why constantly start OT
threads to lecture the NG on lefty BS.

Not socialistic at all.

Challenge: Point out where I ever claimed to a "caring
socialist"_______________

Again I didn't say "you" claimed that I said;

he now tries to palm
himself off as a caring socialist,

which you do!! which is just a bit rich, given you don't even walk the
walk yourself.



all the while picking up a few bob
writing deceptive spruik pieces for low grade magazines


Challenge: Name the magazine(s) I write for- or any of them, and tell me where
you've seen a copy to arrive at your evaluaton that they are "low
grade."_____________________


You've named them here several times when you spam post the articles or
drafts thereof, none are biggies. The articles you've posted are full of
the "deceptive spruik" I mention & I gave you just 2 examples off the
cuff above.


which we need
to constantly correct when he spam the NG with them)


You think. Are you still conviced my engine hydrolocked due to a worn fuel
injector?

I wasn't "convinced" at all & never suggested it was a certainty, I
merely added it to the things to be checked after you found it wasn't
the manifold after all. Whereupon I was set upon by NG idiots. A simple
thank you for making enquiries on your behalf in an effort to assist
would have been sufficient;-)

If you make some enquiries of "real" marine diesel people you'll find
this is a real issue, particularly with yachts, where sometimes the
motor is set very low & often below the fuel tank level when full. As
they age the injectors dribble. Lots of apparent oil dilution is also
caused thus.

You were away on hols, so I summised the tanks might have been full so
it was a "possibility" & nothing more, that the fuel level was above the
injectors. With a high hour engine like yours it was & remains
"possible" the the injector pintle got stuck open enough to let diesel
into the cyl overnight.

Any injector place will do a check for you, seeing you're out of that
engine why don't you get it done just for the sake of it?? tell them you
don't want them serviced etc but that you want to know if you had a
leaky injector that may have jammed open. (I'm all the while still
assuming the fuel tank level was above the injectors??) They will do a
dry seat or dribble test, it's a standard test done on injectors as part
of a proper service.

You've not confirmed what system your perkins uses, but it's most
likely CAV or Bosch. With the pressure is brought up to 10 ats below
spec crack pressure, the nozzle should remain dry. If they're cav then
they are allowed to leak a little but not more than a 12mm diam on
blotting paper held under the injector with that pressure on for 60 secs.

No trouble at all & you're welcome.




See
a pattern of deceptive or lying lowlife here?? I certainly do.

I definitely do & your lying mate Harold has gone crazy today, even by
his standards:-)



I see a lot of inaccurate claims and personal attacks from a bitter old woman
in Australia. It would be extreme to characterize your delusional rantings as
"lying low life", so I'll just say "no", in spite of your pattern.

Well you see what you see & I'm happy you don't agree with me, indeed I
take comfort as I do with many here. The day you come on board is the
day I wonder if the rats on the ropes don't know something after all.



Hope I've answered your questions to your satisfaction, this time:-)

K

Here's some of Harry's lies for you, just to bring back old memories:-)



I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer
for my


staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post.


I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business
booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire a
production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state of
the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap
candidates.


I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my

staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post.




We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health
insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a 401k,
and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a
share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our employees
pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but
that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two weeks
vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third year. In
addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on
Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20 days
of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company administering
pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees.
Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except, of
course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are
not-for-profit enterprises.
How do these compare to the bennies at your shop?

Paid? Every year? I call "bull****". With 3 weeks vacation, 12 paid
holidays, and 20 paid sick days that's 47 *paid* days off every year. Are
they hourly employees? For a "small business", that's the road to
bankruptcy.

Boy...and you had me going there for a minute.

Not quite so simple, though you are trying hard to make it so. Our
business is up because we're on the cusp of an election year. Our
business always goes up in a major election year.
You could say we're going to be doing very well in 2004 because Bush is
such a total failure.


The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless those
days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no one as
yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're there
in case they're needed.


Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD.

The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an employe's
salary for Long Term Disability. Employes have the option of purchasing
an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. The basic benefit
maximum is $4,000 per month. With the buy up, the limit is increased to
$10,000 per month.



Here's just some of his prir lies (in his own words pasted);

I sold off nearly $3,000,000 in new motors and boats, depressing
the new boat
industry in southern Connecticut for an entire season. Everything was
sold...every
cotter pin, every quart of oil, 30 days after I started. For near
full-retail, too.


He had just under $1,000,000 on floor plan with a
syndicate of banks led by National Shawmut of Boston. He had been a
solid customer of that back for more than 20 years and they gave him
great rates.



As far as your other complaints, well, almost every president in
my memory,
and I *remember* Truman, Eisenhower (who cheated on his wife),
Kennedy,
Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush, lied and
participated in
deceit to one degree or another, and on issues far more important
than who
was giving them blow jobs.

Good lord. I met *every* president in the damned group except
Bush, and I
worked once for his father.



My father used to pray that the north shore of LI Sound would be
hit by
a mild hurricane. No
one injured, no on-shore property damaged, but lots of boats sunk.
Preferably early in July.


We had the Hatteras for two years. Last year, out of the cold clear, a
broker approached me with an offer to buy. Our continued Florida
lifestyle was somewhat up in the air, because the two breadwinners
hereabouts were about to be offered long-term but temporary
assignments
they could not refuse in the Washington, D.C., area. So, after being
romanced a little, we sold the Hatt for almost precisely what we paid
for it. Not bad, after two full years of use. And I mean full
years. So,
we didn't "make" any money off the Hatt, but we didn't lose any,
either.
The proceeds were prudently invested.

The PWC was won as
a prize in a raffle.



Never mind that. Why does he have a Bilgeliner in front of his
office?
Is it a display of "Boating Don'ts?"
Yeah, when we were in the boat biz, my father always had one or two







"around the back" that he was forced to take in trade. These were sold
as "as is, where is." He made sure the engine would start and run.
Beyond that, it was up to the prospective buyer to decide if he wanted
it. They moved off the lot pretty quickly, partially because my dad's
main store was on a highly trafficked commercial route with lots of
manufacturing and machining and aerospace plants near by. In those
days,
workers at these places could fix anything.


Actually, Dipper, I don't think my father ever saw a Bayliner. But
he still
called bumpers bumpers.
--



Bayliner wined and dined my father a half dozen times to entice him
into becoming its dealer. His operation was the largest small boat
dealership in its area of New England, and for 30 years, he was the
*exclusive* Evinrude dealer in a densely populated coastal county. He
also handled Mercuries. He never liked Bayliners, and referred to them
as "jerry-built."


From 1947 until he died, he sold more than 500 outboard motors a
year from his stores, accounting for a reasonably high percentage
of *all*
outboards sold in his home state for those years.


This is a killer. My father was in the boat business dating back to
right after
the Big War. When he died and I was looking through his warehouse,
I found
wrapped in a nuclear fall-out bag (no kidding), a brand-new 1949
Evinrude 8015
50 hp outboard. The motor was a gift to my father from Evinrude for
winning some
outboard stock utility or hydroplane race.

I gave the motor to a friend of my dad's, who worked at the shop
as head
mechanic. I don't believe he ever used it and I'm sure it is still
brand-new. I
have no idea who might own it now.



He also built
boats, and I worked on a few, both wood, glass covered wood and
all fiberglass. After he died, however, we sold the biz and I've
just been an occasional boat owner.


Besides, I worked off and on in the
boat business and inherited it when he died. So, as I said, I'm
knee-deep in boat heritage.


Oh,
and I had some friends who died in the service, too, but it wasn't for
what they believed in. They were drafted, shipped to Vietnam and came
back in body bags.


During the war, he turned out experimental brass shell casings
for the
Army and hopped up outboards for the Navy, which wanted to use them on
smaller
landing craft. I had photos at one time of my father with Ole Evinrude
himself.
My mother knew one of Evinrude's wives...she was a minor movie star or
singer...I forgot which. Maybe both.



Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have.
Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice.
Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have.
Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have.
Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have.
Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat
under your
command? I have.


My father and his chief mechanic once crossed the Atlantic in
winter in
a 22'
boat powered by twin outboards. Yes, it is possible, even the
fuel. Got a
"fireboat" welcome in NYC.




Here are some:

Hatteras 43' sportfish
Swan 41' racing/cruising sloop
Morgan 33
O'Day 30
Cruisers, Inc., Mackinac 22
Century Coronado
Bill Luders 16, as sweet a sailboat as ever caught a breeze.
Century 19' wood lapstrake with side wheel steering
Cruisers, Inc. 18' and 16' wood lapstrakes
Wolverines. Molded plywood. Gorgeous. Several. 14,15,17 footers
with various
Evinrudes
Lighting class sailboat
Botved Coronet with twin 50 hp Evinrudes. Interesting boat.
Aristocraft (a piece of junk...13', fast, held together with spit)
Alcort Sunfish
Ancarrow Marine Aquiflyer. 22' footer with two Caddy Crusaders.
Guaranteed 60
mph. In the late 1950's.
Skimmar brand skiff
Arkansas Traveler fiberglass bowrider (I think it was a bowrider)
Dyer Dhow
Su-Mark round bilge runabout, fiberglass
Penn Yan runabouts. Wood.
Old Town wood and canvas canoe
Old Town sailing canoe...different than above canoe



Sometime in the early 1960s, I was driving back from Ft. Leonard
Wood to
Kansas City in a nice old MGA I owned at the time. About halfway
home it
started raining heavily, I turned on the wipers, and EVERY SINGLE
electrical accessory and light in the car flashed on, there was a
large
popping sound and it all blew out at once. And the car caught fire. I
pulled over to the side of the road, watched the fire, removed my
license plate and hitched on home. For all I know, that old MGA is
still
there.

Sure was a pretty little car.


Puh-lease, Karen. You've not seen nor have I ever posted one example of
my professional writings on building structure and the effects on it of
hurricane-force winds and seismic activity. I haven't done any of these
in at least 10 year, but at the time I was field researching,
photographing and writing these reports, they were quite accurate,
topical and well-received by their intended audiences.


A small fleet of Polar skiffs were purchased by an inshore bait, tackle

and boat rental business on the ICW in NE Florida. These boats
were not
used on open waters. Within 90 days, cracks developed in the
liners that
also served as the deck over the flotation in the bottom of the
hulls. A
guide I know, one whose boats and engines are supplied to him by
manufacturers, also had a Polar skiff go bad on him for the same
reasons
-liner and then hull fractures.







Harry has claimed to have a 20 yrs his junior beautiful wife, he
even put a fake pic of a beautiful woman on a website once claiming it
was his "young bride", he may have a wife, although I doubt it, we don't
like nor tolerate misogynists for long.

Needless to say he's made up many "dramatic" over the top
stories over the years about this lie to feed his ego & pretend he's the
centre of attention, but as with his boat claims & other crap, there's
never once been even a shred of independently verifiable material.

After he stalked Madcow in real life, which was most
frightening, I do suspect he's very very dangerous & that this "bride"
story is his delusional appropriation of his, probably court ordered,
treating psychotherapist as "wife" (it seems he was under lock & key for
what?? over a year??? a sexual deviant maybe??), have a read of just a
small part of his BS & make up your own mind, it's all about free choice:-)


1. She *is* my bride. There are no rules that determine the end of
"bride-hood." If I want to refer to her as my bride, I may.

2. As a professional writer, I know the rules of language and am
entitled to
break them in exercise of my license.

3. I doubt many married women would object to their husbands lovingly
referring to them as brides. The connotations are pleasant.

4. She's 20 years younger than I am.



Naw. What happened was that I handled a couple of "political" consulting
jobs funded out of the DC area to help a few candidates and defeat a
couple of ballot issues. Through no fault of mine, we won each of the
races, so some of the deep pockets types based in the DC area think I
actually *know something* about the process. I was offered a contract
that requires my presence in DC quite frequently. My bride also was
offered a job up here that represented a significant professional career
move. So, we're "up here" much of the time and "down there" the rest of
it, except when we're "somewhere else." I've been back to Jax (well,
really south of Jax) five times since coming "up here" late last summer
and my bride just returned from a business trip there.

I swear this is true.


Here's a funny. My bride had to fly out to San Diego Wednesday and
hitched a ride on her company's corporate jet. They landed in Salina,
Kansas, which is due north of Wichita and Skippy's suburb of Derby.

So when she gets to San Diego, I get a call asking, "What the hell did
you do in Kansas...we didn't fly over one significant patch of
water...?"

Harry, you make over 500 posts a week to this group and you don't own
a boat?
And why are you so crabby?
Maybe these two factors are related?



One has to own something to use it? Hmmm. My bride drives off in her car
every day, but she doesn't own it.

I'm not crabby. You asked for advice I gave you some. I questioned your
wanting to take a very small boat out into high seas and suddenly you
turned sour. It's your pot; you are the one stewing in it.

No, it is the boat of a friend. It is a 24' ProLine center console with,
if I recall, a 225 hp Merc on it. It was a dark and stormy day in
January (1997) when we went out, but the sky cleared once we got out to
the Gulf Stream.


Bride and I caught and released:

1 white marlin
12-15 yellowtail snappers, maybe two pounds each. Pretty, pretty fish.
Assorted red snappers
1 amberjack
2 jack crevalle jacks
1 snook
Nondescript sharks

Did you spend a year as a line psychotherapist at a 650-bed state
hospital for forensic patients?
Did you spend a year as senior psychotherapist at a county facility for
substance abusers?
Did you spend two years as chief of therapy at a private, 200-bed
facility for the mentally and emotionally ill, at which approximately
half the patients were trying to beat drugs or alcohol?
Are you currently chief of therapy for a for a multi-practitioner
practice of some 825 patients, about a third of which are seeking help
for substance abuse problems?


Licensed psychotherapist
Screening as to character and background for each degree earned
On-going screening by faculty while in educational system
Interviews and screenings for required years of internships, plus,
at the same
time, supervision by a licensed professional.
Close professional and personal supervision by a licensed therapist
for two years
of employment before being allowed to apply for licensure
Licensure background check, submission of recommendations by licensed
practitioners
Four hour written examination on state laws
Five hour written examination on diagnosis, procedure and practice

My wife went through this before becoming licensed. Her final
internship was as a
psychotherapist at a 600-bed high security state psychiatric
hospital where, on a
daily basis, she was exposed to more danger than your average soldier.

My wife worked for a year as psychotherapist in a Florida 600-bed state
mental institution for forensic patients. She saw and treated numerous
sexual deviants who do a bit more than expose themselves. Such
"treatment"
is part of being in the mental health professions.


You see, I'm a nautical psychotherapist, and for only $125 an hour,
until their health insurance runs out, I help Bayliner owners
overcome their
feelings of boatable inadequacy.


She is a licensed, practicing
psychotherapist and often tells me I am the sanest person she sees each
day. Which can be taken any way one likes.


1. I'm married to a psychotherapist. Live-in therapy, dontcha know?
And much of
Freud is passe.

My ex-wife surpassed the anti-Christ at least a decade ago.

They're not actually "free" moments. I go to boat dealers to round-up
Bayliner owners who are trying to find one who will take their own
version of flotsam and jetsam in on trade.


1. The address listed is not a home address. It is an office.

2. I have three phone numbers. The phone number listed is not one of
mine. It has never been one of mine. The phone number *did* belong to an
after-hours message recording hotline my wife maintained for her most
mentally disturbed patients. Some of these troubled souls were
court-ordered referrals. *Every* call to that phone number--every
call--was recorded AND because of the nature of the line, my wife had
the ability to alert the telephone company to trace the phone number of
every incoming call to that line, *even* if the person making the call
tried to block his number.

Why, you might ask? Because when you are dealing with suicidal people,
they'll liable to tell their therapist over the phone that they are
planning to take their life. If the therapist believes the threat is
real, she or he will want to dispatch emergency srvices and perhaps the
police.

In the years my wife has provided this pro bono service, she has never
received a threatening or abusive call from a mentally ill patient or
court-ordered referral. However, after the ranking Flaming Ass of this
newsgroup posted the hotline number in this newsgroup, she received a
number of abusive, foul-mouthed AND life-threatening calls. These were
mostly directed at me but, of course, I never received them BECAUSE
(duh!) the phone is not mine and I've never answered it.
Naturally, my wife alerted the authorities, with whom she works closely
because of her court-referred patients. The authorities are
investigating the callers and have involved both the FBI *and*
authorities in other states, including Florida, Georgia, California and
Texas. Working with the telephone company, the authorities have been
able to trace the origin of virtually every abusive call. And, of
course, they have the tape recordings of the abusive messages. Several
suspects have been identified. I really don't know what the outcome of
all this will be. We haven't had an update in several weeks, nor are
either of us here that interested in the sleazeballs that would make
such calls.


The phone number, of course, is "wired," so when the obnoxious calls
came in
from the idiot rec.boaters, the numbers were easy enough to trace.
The local
police handled a complaint, the local telco was involved and when it was
discovered the point of origin was out of state, the FBI got
involved. At
least one of the idiots was caught and prosecuted. As far as I can
tell, he
has not posted here again