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Harry Krause wrote:
K Smith wrote:


Harry Krause wrote:

John Gaquin wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message news:bqlun9

I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer


for my

staff.

And not purely through altruism, either, I'd bet. I'm sure your small
business is not unrepresentative. You need more staff because your


business

is increased.



I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business
booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work.


You're nothing but a liar. Nobody but nobody would let you be involved
in any manner even with a local union election, much less a "major"
election year. You just make these lies up as you go along. The only
thing you're ever at risk of drowning in is your own BS. That about as
close as you get to boat also.



Ms. Smith:

In case you haven't figured it out yet, I don't give a flying ****


Wooohoo what a clever liar you a-) I'm OK with language so have fun.

what
you think about me or what erroneous claims you make about me or what
you try to do to make my posts "fit" whatever notions you have of me.

Got it? I don't care.


But it seems this post confirms you do??? How about you kill file me,
then I can have peace for my posts at last.


It doesn't matter to me. Nothing that you or any
of the other right-wing chunks of crap post here means anything to me.


It does though; you spend it seems every waking moment punching at us &
clouds, with only your left wing of course:-)


The fact that you "get off" playing your mindless little "reposting"
pranks simply demonstrates what an absolutely worthless life and
existence you lead.

We this is fun to me, some people find fun other ways, for me at the
moment confirming you're a liar is fun, besides what ever possessed you
to start this latest lie off??? It was obviously a fabrication, but you
then went on & on, stop digging!!!.

By now, *everyone* with a working brain knows *why* you are doing what
you do. You've been caught so many times trying to bull**** everyone
with your almost complete lack of boating knowledge, there's little left
for you to do here. Trying to "harangue" me is about all you have left.


I guess it was just luck about the 2 stroke idle being controlled by
spark timing?? your dealer mates didn't have a clue:-)

Or the VRO, I mean the main OMC spruiker still can't understand what
every one I know, has known about for well over a decade.

Or the dealer markups, I mean they were still being denyied in this NG
when the bankruptcy court in Chicago confirmed all of what I'd been
telling you for years.

Or how about Ficht?? I told you & the NG it wouldn't work even before
they were widely available AND with lots of help from friends, explained
exactly why!! Gee sad I was right there, lots of NG boaters suffered
even if their particular engine didn't carc it, 7000 mostly innocent
jobs chucked & 1.3 US$ of pensioners' money chucked along with it. The
only bright spot was watching those lying dealer mates of yours get hosed.

Or the Optimax story, along the same lines as Ficht, but we did tell
you they wouldn't work, again why & even got it right that they wouldn't
be as bad as the Fichts

Damn I better buy some lottery tickets I'm on a roll.


For the record, Ms. Smith, I think you're a semi-retired former
secretary and "go-fer"


This is a description I'm OK with certainly not as rude as you usually
a-)

who worked at come crappy little boatyard in
Australia,


Not too off it's not a boatyard & I don't "work" there, I do own it
however.

and probably had to blowjob your way into that job.

Now there you go with your sexist crap again, Harry the world has
changed, all sorts of people do all sorts of things & the gender just
doesn't matter, other than to people like you.

Or
perhaps you inherited a little boatyard from some former husband who
decided it was better to die than put up with your insanity for another
day. It really doesn't make any difference to me or to anyone else.


So now you're back to the nasty hurtful Harry we all know & hate so much.



You're a fraud. You have not invented a diesel outboard.


You've been slinging off at it since what 98?? (the pic one is a 96 model)

You have no
factory to produce diesel outboards.


I agree & have never claimed otherwise. I do have a corp structure with
a workshop which my blokes play in & I do exercise some control but not
much really, we're all a bit past that sorta stuff.

You have no distribution network to
get diesel outboards into the hands of dealers. You have no dealers.


Again "if" I decide to market them to the general public I'd never use
dealers. They would be stocked at distribution warehouses, so if anyone
wanted one they could either pick it up or have them deliver it.

You
have no sales force.


Of course not & have never claimed any, don't need one either:-)

You have no product literature.

No spruiking material because I'm not trying to induce anyone to buy a
Taipan OB at the moment.

You have no serious
articles published in real marine trade publications about your diesel
outboard.


Pass.

No one at Britton has ever heard of you.
Nor I of them so who are they??? or are you trying to infer "that"
Briton?? I guess not; I'm not well known in Iceland either just so you
don't waste your time checking:-)

No one in consequence
in your part of Australia in the marine trades business has the foggiest
notion of your diesel outboard,


Well I'm surprised at that comment given some of the rumours I've heard
about it myself, I always get a giggle:-) however no matter.

and I could go on for days on this one
subject.


Well it's on topic for this NG so don't hold back, I mean the OT
political posts go on for days.

The one photo you produced shows a crappy old boat powered by
what looks like a rusty old Homelite outboard with a homemade lower unit.


So what?? you're saying you don't like it?? Oh sad & in another way
probably good news for me. It's the original & nowhere near new then,
the boat well almost the same story times 50.


You're full of ****, Ms. Smith.


No, I eat oranges; if you have a problem that way you should try it:-)

The only posters here who give you any
credence are some of your fellow right-wingers, who, frankly, would
salute a cold pile of manure if it supported George W. Bush.


I'm am & from the right & proud; I say proud boy.

So...post away. Make an idiot of yourself.


OK thanks I was worried you didn't approve, they're your own words
after all, but now I have your specific permission...... well thanks Harry.

You go, gal, but don't ever
think that anything you do here or have done here or will do here will
have any impact on me.


No I certainly know that established liars like you never change,
indeed just one fabrication usually sets the pattern & in your case
that's so true. You're a liar who though the web would let you get way
with it, yet here you are hoisted on your own petard.


You're nothing but an overweight,


Hmmm I am a bit to be honest but as much as your private pics on those
charter boats showed you to be, however yes you're right I should loose
a bit, but hey I'm hardly a beach bunny.

ugly,

How the hell would you know?? I have seen pics that you claim are you,
but you being a liar who knows. Whoever was in those pics Harry was no
oil painting trust me, a pot bellied, bald, greasey old man, so who are
you to be calling me ugly??

old

Not young, so that's OK.

hag,

You find me to be a 'hag" that's well done:-) yet you say I don't
bother you?? More lies hey harry?? Fortunately for me you're not the
last man on earth & some find me OK. But I'm all about free choice
so......... no worries.

Ms. Smith, and you come
here looking for redemption.


Redemption?? I'm a nonbeliever in the supernatural being crap Harry so
I have no need of redemption.

Well, no one is going to redeem you.

I told you I don't need it, so I'll happily remain damned by you shall I:-)

No one
gives a flying **** about you.


Are you absolutely positively sure I don't bother you?? I mean on many
occasions you've complained about "potty" mouths in the NG yet when it
suits you?? Ah more lies, I'll look them up & get back to you on it.
Don't be concerned we're a bit more liberal with language here, so call
me what you like no real damage inflicted.

I hear tell that the neighborhood peeping
tom looked into your window one night, gagged, and pulled down your
windowshade.


You leave young Thomas alone he's a basically good kid & we all just
ignore him. I guess with your nose you can't get that close to a window???


Christ, Ms. Smith, you can't even write in a clever fashion.


Again I honestly have no concern about language, but watch out for your
deep south, they might get stroppy. Of course I accept I'm not a clever
writer, however it seems I do write a fair bit of technical material
even just here in the NG, which has over time carried the truth, unlike
yours which is just one lie after the other.

Is there
anything you do,


Oh don't stop please, please, please :-)

other than puke into this newsgroup?

I hope I don't "puke" the entire NG but if you say I do, it's probably
just another of your lies.

Speaking of which:-)

K

Here's some of Harry's lies for you, just to bring back old memories:-)



I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my



staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post.


I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business
booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire a
production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state of
the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap
candidates.


I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my

staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post.





We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health
insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a 401k,
and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a
share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our employees
pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but
that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two weeks
vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third year. In
addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on
Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20 days
of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company administering
pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees.
Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except, of
course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are
not-for-profit enterprises.
How do these compare to the bennies at your shop?

Paid? Every year? I call "bull****". With 3 weeks vacation, 12 paid
holidays, and 20 paid sick days that's 47 *paid* days off every year. Are
they hourly employees? For a "small business", that's the road to
bankruptcy.

Boy...and you had me going there for a minute.

Not quite so simple, though you are trying hard to make it so. Our
business is up because we're on the cusp of an election year. Our
business always goes up in a major election year.
You could say we're going to be doing very well in 2004 because Bush is
such a total failure.


The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless those
days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no one as
yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're there
in case they're needed.


Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD.

The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an employe's
salary for Long Term Disability. Employes have the option of purchasing
an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. The basic benefit
maximum is $4,000 per month. With the buy up, the limit is increased to
$10,000 per month.

It is indeed, and is underwritten by Berkshire Life. If, for example,
you're a writer or a graphics artist and something happens to your eyes
or hands or whatever, and you can't write or "draw," but can work at
something else, you still draw the full disability, up to 50% or 66.66%.


You have some strange ideas. If one of our employees decides to take an
additional week of vacation off, over and above what is allowed, I can,
if I so choose, deduct a week's pay off the next paycheck. I have
decided Columbus Day is a good day to have off, so I have made it a paid
holiday. If it wasn't a paid holiday, I could deduct a day's pay from
the check of any employee who took that day off (without claiming it as
a sick day or a vacation day).

When the feds close down because of heavy snow, we close, too. I don't
deduct a day's pay for that, either.





Here's just some of his prior lies (in his own words pasted);

I sold off nearly $3,000,000 in new motors and boats, depressing
the new boat
industry in southern Connecticut for an entire season. Everything was
sold...every
cotter pin, every quart of oil, 30 days after I started. For near
full-retail, too.


He had just under $1,000,000 on floor plan with a
syndicate of banks led by National Shawmut of Boston. He had been a
solid customer of that back for more than 20 years and they gave him
great rates.



As far as your other complaints, well, almost every president in my memory,
and I *remember* Truman, Eisenhower (who cheated on his wife), Kennedy,
Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush, lied and participated in
deceit to one degree or another, and on issues far more important than who
was giving them blow jobs.

Good lord. I met *every* president in the damned group except Bush, and I
worked once for his father.



My father used to pray that the north shore of LI Sound would be hit by
a mild hurricane. No
one injured, no on-shore property damaged, but lots of boats sunk.
Preferably early in July.


We had the Hatteras for two years. Last year, out of the cold clear, a
broker approached me with an offer to buy. Our continued Florida
lifestyle was somewhat up in the air, because the two breadwinners
hereabouts were about to be offered long-term but temporary assignments
they could not refuse in the Washington, D.C., area. So, after being
romanced a little, we sold the Hatt for almost precisely what we paid
for it. Not bad, after two full years of use. And I mean full years. So,
we didn't "make" any money off the Hatt, but we didn't lose any, either.
The proceeds were prudently invested.
The PWC was won as
a prize in a raffle.



Never mind that. Why does he have a Bilgeliner in front of his office?
Is it a display of "Boating Don'ts?"
Yeah, when we were in the boat biz, my father always had one or two







"around the back" that he was forced to take in trade. These were sold
as "as is, where is." He made sure the engine would start and run.
Beyond that, it was up to the prospective buyer to decide if he wanted
it. They moved off the lot pretty quickly, partially because my dad's
main store was on a highly trafficked commercial route with lots of
manufacturing and machining and aerospace plants near by. In those days,
workers at these places could fix anything.


Actually, Dipper, I don't think my father ever saw a Bayliner. But he still
called bumpers bumpers.
--



Bayliner wined and dined my father a half dozen times to entice him
into becoming its dealer. His operation was the largest small boat
dealership in its area of New England, and for 30 years, he was the
*exclusive* Evinrude dealer in a densely populated coastal county. He
also handled Mercuries. He never liked Bayliners, and referred to them
as "jerry-built."


From 1947 until he died, he sold more than 500 outboard motors a
year from his stores, accounting for a reasonably high percentage of *all*
outboards sold in his home state for those years.


This is a killer. My father was in the boat business dating back to
right after
the Big War. When he died and I was looking through his warehouse, I found
wrapped in a nuclear fall-out bag (no kidding), a brand-new 1949
Evinrude 8015
50 hp outboard. The motor was a gift to my father from Evinrude for
winning some
outboard stock utility or hydroplane race.

I gave the motor to a friend of my dad's, who worked at the shop as head
mechanic. I don't believe he ever used it and I'm sure it is still
brand-new. I
have no idea who might own it now.



He also built
boats, and I worked on a few, both wood, glass covered wood and
all fiberglass. After he died, however, we sold the biz and I've
just been an occasional boat owner.


Besides, I worked off and on in the
boat business and inherited it when he died. So, as I said, I'm
knee-deep in boat heritage.


Oh,
and I had some friends who died in the service, too, but it wasn't for
what they believed in. They were drafted, shipped to Vietnam and came
back in body bags.


During the war, he turned out experimental brass shell casings
for the
Army and hopped up outboards for the Navy, which wanted to use them on
smaller
landing craft. I had photos at one time of my father with Ole Evinrude
himself.
My mother knew one of Evinrude's wives...she was a minor movie star or
singer...I forgot which. Maybe both.



Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have.
Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice.
Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have.
Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have.
Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have.
Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat under your
command? I have.


My father and his chief mechanic once crossed the Atlantic in winter in
a 22'
boat powered by twin outboards. Yes, it is possible, even the fuel. Got a
"fireboat" welcome in NYC.




Here are some:

Hatteras 43' sportfish
Swan 41' racing/cruising sloop
Morgan 33
O'Day 30
Cruisers, Inc., Mackinac 22
Century Coronado
Bill Luders 16, as sweet a sailboat as ever caught a breeze.
Century 19' wood lapstrake with side wheel steering
Cruisers, Inc. 18' and 16' wood lapstrakes
Wolverines. Molded plywood. Gorgeous. Several. 14,15,17 footers with various
Evinrudes
Lighting class sailboat
Botved Coronet with twin 50 hp Evinrudes. Interesting boat.
Aristocraft (a piece of junk...13', fast, held together with spit)
Alcort Sunfish
Ancarrow Marine Aquiflyer. 22' footer with two Caddy Crusaders.
Guaranteed 60
mph. In the late 1950's.
Skimmar brand skiff
Arkansas Traveler fiberglass bowrider (I think it was a bowrider)
Dyer Dhow
Su-Mark round bilge runabout, fiberglass
Penn Yan runabouts. Wood.
Old Town wood and canvas canoe
Old Town sailing canoe...different than above canoe



Sometime in the early 1960s, I was driving back from Ft. Leonard Wood to
Kansas City in a nice old MGA I owned at the time. About halfway home it
started raining heavily, I turned on the wipers, and EVERY SINGLE
electrical accessory and light in the car flashed on, there was a large
popping sound and it all blew out at once. And the car caught fire. I
pulled over to the side of the road, watched the fire, removed my
license plate and hitched on home. For all I know, that old MGA is still
there.

Sure was a pretty little car.


Puh-lease, Karen. You've not seen nor have I ever posted one example of
my professional writings on building structure and the effects on it of
hurricane-force winds and seismic activity. I haven't done any of these
in at least 10 year, but at the time I was field researching,
photographing and writing these reports, they were quite accurate,
topical and well-received by their intended audiences.


A small fleet of Polar skiffs were purchased by an inshore bait, tackle

and boat rental business on the ICW in NE Florida. These boats were not
used on open waters. Within 90 days, cracks developed in the liners that
also served as the deck over the flotation in the bottom of the hulls. A
guide I know, one whose boats and engines are supplied to him by
manufacturers, also had a Polar skiff go bad on him for the same reasons
-liner and then hull fractures.







Harry has claimed to have a 20 yrs his junior beautiful wife, he even put a fake pic of a beautiful woman on a website once claiming it was his "young bride", he may have a wife, although I doubt it, we don't like nor tolerate misogynists for long.

Needless to say he's made up many "dramatic" over the top stories over the years about this lie to feed his ego & pretend he's the centre of attention, but as with his boat claims & other crap, there's never once been even a shred of independently verifiable material.

After he stalked Madcow in real life, which was most frightening, I do suspect he's very very dangerous & that this "bride" story is his delusional appropriation of his, probably court ordered, treating psychotherapist as "wife" (it seems he was under lock & key for what?? over a year??? a sexual deviant maybe??), have a read of just a small part of his BS & make up your own mind, it's all about free choice:-)


1. She *is* my bride. There are no rules that determine the end of
"bride-hood." If I want to refer to her as my bride, I may.

2. As a professional writer, I know the rules of language and am entitled to
break them in exercise of my license.

3. I doubt many married women would object to their husbands lovingly
referring to them as brides. The connotations are pleasant.

4. She's 20 years younger than I am.



Naw. What happened was that I handled a couple of "political" consulting
jobs funded out of the DC area to help a few candidates and defeat a
couple of ballot issues. Through no fault of mine, we won each of the
races, so some of the deep pockets types based in the DC area think I
actually *know something* about the process. I was offered a contract
that requires my presence in DC quite frequently. My bride also was
offered a job up here that represented a significant professional career
move. So, we're "up here" much of the time and "down there" the rest of
it, except when we're "somewhere else." I've been back to Jax (well,
really south of Jax) five times since coming "up here" late last summer
and my bride just returned from a business trip there.

I swear this is true.


Here's a funny. My bride had to fly out to San Diego Wednesday and
hitched a ride on her company's corporate jet. They landed in Salina,
Kansas, which is due north of Wichita and Skippy's suburb of Derby.

So when she gets to San Diego, I get a call asking, "What the hell did
you do in Kansas...we didn't fly over one significant patch of
water...?"

Harry, you make over 500 posts a week to this group and you don't own
a boat?
And why are you so crabby?
Maybe these two factors are related?



One has to own something to use it? Hmmm. My bride drives off in her car
every day, but she doesn't own it.

I'm not crabby. You asked for advice I gave you some. I questioned your
wanting to take a very small boat out into high seas and suddenly you
turned sour. It's your pot; you are the one stewing in it.

No, it is the boat of a friend. It is a 24' ProLine center console with,
if I recall, a 225 hp Merc on it. It was a dark and stormy day in
January (1997) when we went out, but the sky cleared once we got out to
the Gulf Stream.


Bride and I caught and released:

1 white marlin
12-15 yellowtail snappers, maybe two pounds each. Pretty, pretty fish.
Assorted red snappers
1 amberjack
2 jack crevalle jacks
1 snook
Nondescript sharks

Did you spend a year as a line psychotherapist at a 650-bed state
hospital for forensic patients?
Did you spend a year as senior psychotherapist at a county facility for
substance abusers?
Did you spend two years as chief of therapy at a private, 200-bed
facility for the mentally and emotionally ill, at which approximately
half the patients were trying to beat drugs or alcohol?
Are you currently chief of therapy for a for a multi-practitioner
practice of some 825 patients, about a third of which are seeking help
for substance abuse problems?


Licensed psychotherapist
Screening as to character and background for each degree earned
On-going screening by faculty while in educational system
Interviews and screenings for required years of internships, plus, at the same
time, supervision by a licensed professional.
Close professional and personal supervision by a licensed therapist for two years
of employment before being allowed to apply for licensure
Licensure background check, submission of recommendations by licensed
practitioners
Four hour written examination on state laws
Five hour written examination on diagnosis, procedure and practice

My wife went through this before becoming licensed. Her final internship was as a
psychotherapist at a 600-bed high security state psychiatric hospital where, on a
daily basis, she was exposed to more danger than your average soldier.

My wife worked for a year as psychotherapist in a Florida 600-bed state
mental institution for forensic patients. She saw and treated numerous
sexual deviants who do a bit more than expose themselves. Such "treatment"
is part of being in the mental health professions.


You see, I'm a nautical psychotherapist, and for only $125 an hour,
until their health insurance runs out, I help Bayliner owners overcome their
feelings of boatable inadequacy.


She is a licensed, practicing
psychotherapist and often tells me I am the sanest person she sees each
day. Which can be taken any way one likes.


1. I'm married to a psychotherapist. Live-in therapy, dontcha know? And much of
Freud is passe.

My ex-wife surpassed the anti-Christ at least a decade ago.

They're not actually "free" moments. I go to boat dealers to round-up
Bayliner owners who are trying to find one who will take their own
version of flotsam and jetsam in on trade.


1. The address listed is not a home address. It is an office.

2. I have three phone numbers. The phone number listed is not one of
mine. It has never been one of mine. The phone number *did* belong to an
after-hours message recording hotline my wife maintained for her most
mentally disturbed patients. Some of these troubled souls were
court-ordered referrals. *Every* call to that phone number--every
call--was recorded AND because of the nature of the line, my wife had
the ability to alert the telephone company to trace the phone number of
every incoming call to that line, *even* if the person making the call
tried to block his number.

Why, you might ask? Because when you are dealing with suicidal people,
they'll liable to tell their therapist over the phone that they are
planning to take their life. If the therapist believes the threat is
real, she or he will want to dispatch emergency srvices and perhaps the
police.

In the years my wife has provided this pro bono service, she has never
received a threatening or abusive call from a mentally ill patient or
court-ordered referral. However, after the ranking Flaming Ass of this
newsgroup posted the hotline number in this newsgroup, she received a
number of abusive, foul-mouthed AND life-threatening calls. These were
mostly directed at me but, of course, I never received them BECAUSE
(duh!) the phone is not mine and I've never answered it.
Naturally, my wife alerted the authorities, with whom she works closely
because of her court-referred patients. The authorities are
investigating the callers and have involved both the FBI *and*
authorities in other states, including Florida, Georgia, California and
Texas. Working with the telephone company, the authorities have been
able to trace the origin of virtually every abusive call. And, of
course, they have the tape recordings of the abusive messages. Several
suspects have been identified. I really don't know what the outcome of
all this will be. We haven't had an update in several weeks, nor are
either of us here that interested in the sleazeballs that would make
such calls.


The phone number, of course, is "wired," so when the obnoxious calls came in
from the idiot rec.boaters, the numbers were easy enough to trace. The local
police handled a complaint, the local telco was involved and when it was
discovered the point of origin was out of state, the FBI got involved. At
least one of the idiots was caught and prosecuted. As far as I can tell, he
has not posted here again