"Dave" wrote in message
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What I find troubling, Jon, is your apparent view that anything goes,
because the other side might do bad things too. And I observe that
attitude
more on the left side of the spectrum than on the right side.

More fundamentally, the notion seems to be that principle doesn't
matter--only the results. This is a dangerous trend in our system.

Apparently the definition of uncivilized or the defining characteristics of
immaturity.