On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:09:08 GMT, otnmbrd
wrote:

If you are moving astern, fast enough to have steering with your rudder
(even on a sailboat) you are probably moving astern too fast

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That's what everyone always says right up until I put the boat right
where I want it, the first time. (sailboats only please, big rudder,
big keel, etc.)