Our sailing buddy Jeff decided to take this off newsgroup and go one
on one by email. Kinda ticks me off, as I thought I gave him good
advice, i.e., people probably won't mail you used winches for ten
bucks each plus postage. Here's the off line email dialogue:

From: "Jeff Stander"
To:
Subject: Need some broken old winches
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:28:58 -0800

Yes,

We have "junkyards" too. But the prices are simply absurd - hundreds
of
dollars for non self-tailing winches available on ebay for a 100
bucks.

So you think I'm "dreamin'", eh. Yes I suppose it was too much to
hope
that
somebody would have an old winch in their workshop to help out a
fellow
sailor. It's not like they are going to get more than $10 for it at
their
friendly marine junkyard. And it's not really about the ten bucks,
Mark,
but I guess you and the others who responded with their febrile
comments
didn't quite realize that. I've kinda had it with this newsgroup,
frankly.

JS

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-----Original Message-----
From: ]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:46 PM
To:
Subject: Need some broken old winches


My my, such a chip on your shoulder! What I was trying to say is
it's
unlikely a fellow boater has a broken winch he'll part with for $10
when
just the metal scarp value is more than that.

So, how many offers have you gotten so far? I rest my case . . .

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From: "Jeff Stander"
To:
Subject: Need some broken old winches
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:13:49 -0800

Who needs negativity?

I have six winches so far.

What exactly was the benefit of your comment? Either people would
help me
or they won't.

Best of Luck to you.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++

Hard to tell based on verb tense, but apparently Jeff's saying this
newsgroup he's "had it with" coughed up six winches at the ten bucks a
pop deal. If so, I stand corrected and the world is more rose colored
than I imagine. Oddly, his website at
"http://www.svbeatrix.us/Refit/Deck/WinchReplacement.htm" makes no
mention of turning in used winches obtained from a Google newsgroup
request as part of the Harken deal. Would be quite an attaboy for
"us" if so.

I think it didn't happen. End of story, point bein' keep it on line,
folks.