Good, does that mean this discussion is over?

Only if:

Every person is entitled to compensation for honest labor. If we can't
agree on
that basic premise, there is no hope for any additional discussion.



In that case, there's no purpose in hollering into a void.

Free market spin? "Every person is entitled to compensation for honest labor-
unless we can figure a way to screw them out of compensation, (in which case
they are free to go work elsewhere, if they can)."