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This week, we had about 1000 square feet of the lower level of
our
house
tiled in ceramic tile. This is the area that comprises my home
office.


*Lower level* of your house? So you had your basement tiled. Why
not
just
say so.

And it sounds like your first quote was off base. I would guess
even
a
non
union company would have beat it.

What is so special about laying tile that you need to be union?

Just my guess: How about the presence of formal training
(apprenticeship)
arrangements? That means something. Otherwise, you could end up
hiring
someone who, after discovering they were pretty good at it after
doing
their
own home, decided to open a business.

Union tilesetters undergo a formal, three-year apprenticeship
program.
A
lot of that training has to do with the safe handling of various
chemicals that are rarely, if ever, used during tilesetting or
maintenance in single-family homes.

Pure bull****.

Why do you say it's bull****? Have you gone through the process, or
know
anyone who has?


This is hilarious. There are dozens of "hazmats" that union masonry work
ers taught to handle properly. There is quite a bit of chemistry and
math involved in being a journeyman.

It takes 3 years for them to learn the dangers of certain cleaners and
adhesives? I guess these are not the brightest bulbs in the construction
trade.



Very few union tilesetters work single-family residential, although
I
have foudn the crews I've hired in my minor-league homebuilding
ventures
to be more skilled and efficient than the non-union crews.

It is kind of humorous that Hertvik is commenting here...if you saw
a
photo of his house, you'd conclude that no one with a sense of
design,
taste or construction skill was involved...but, hey, taste is
subjective,eh?


We have a 4,000 square foot house constructed in 1992.If you have a
picture to post please do. I have no idea how you would have obtained
it,
but as you have been stalking me recently I guess nothing is beyond
belief
with you.


What's the size go to do with the aesthetic quality of the house?
("aesthetic" means "how it looks").


Nothing nor did I say it had anything to do with how it looks. Perhaps
Harry will post a picture though. He did claim to have one.

Harry said nothing about its size, but that's the thing you responded to.

"It's green"
"No. It's a big house"

WTF?