"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, you in fact ignored -- or were utterly ignorant of -- the issue. a
non-citizen can NOT be the primary operator of a documented vessel, because to
be so clearly makes of sham of any claim of non-ownership of the vessel.

Are you actually claiming that the operator of a vessel is the same as the owner
of a vessel??? You're trying to backpedal out of this by shifting the meaning
of "operator" from the person in command to the actual owner. But in various
previous posts you were quite explicit in your claim that a citizen must be on
board and in command at all times:

"US documentation has been lost on recreational vessels found to being operating
by a non-citizen with not citizens onboard and in command."

"wanna hand your documented vessel over to a non-citizen for a couple
hours off a CG station? Let me know ahead of time and I will arrange a
welcoming committee."

As I've shown, it is perfectly legal for a vessel with only a recreational
endorsement to be loaned or chartered to a non-citizen. I've shown the actual
law, and some commentary on it from a major insurance company. All you've shown
is a CG site that never addresses the issue of who can or cannot be in command.

I gave you the link to the US Code, feel free to search it for anything that
supports you position. What you'll find is a lot of law that puts restrictions
on commercial vessels, especially fishing vessels. But recreational vessels are
specifically excluded.

Remember, this discussion has nothing to do with the original poster; it is
entirely about your false claim that a citizen must be onboard and in command at
all times.








That is why I pushed you to come up with the complete code, and you were not
able to do so. In the end, I produced the information. Even now, I doubt you
understand what it says, as witness your dumb cluck statement below.

note, box of rocks, the use of the term primary. ask your wife to explain it
to you.

From: "Jeff Morris"
Date: 10/3/2004 11:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

I don't write them! I tried to put it in simple English, but jaxie insisted
on
the exact paragraph in the law. The thought the Boat/US magazine article was
pretty clear.



"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 19:52:05 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:


The current law, one more time:

Title 46
Section 12110. Limitations on operations authorized by certificates
...
(c) A vessel with only a recreational endorsement may not be
operated other than for pleasure.
(d) A documented vessel, other than a vessel with only a
recreational endorsement, may be placed under the command only of a
citizen of the United States.

Under the new law, which passed the House last week, this will be Section
12131,
with the wording:
A documented vessel (other than a vessel with only a
recreational endorsement) may be placed under the command
only of a citizen of the United States.

Jeff:
Some folks have difficulties with double negatives and legalese.
How about easing the burden with a translation of
Title 46, Sec 12110 para d) - something like this for example:
" A documented vessel with only a recreational endorsement may be
placed under the command of a non-citizen of the United States."

Brian W