"DSK" wrote in message

Actually, Doug, I'm voting for Bush because I've looked at both
candidates,
read the literature (and lies) propagated by both camps, and decided for
the
lesser of two evils.

What "literature" has the Bush-Cheney campaign produced?

Please learn to read, Doug. I said "camps," which is encompassing and not
an abbreviation for campaigns. I'm including the websites, books, newspaper
and periodical accounts and anything else produced by Kerry and Bush
supporters as well as by the candidates themselves, such as Kerry's book
"Tour of Duty" and the book "Unfit for Command" by O'Neill. I've also
visited moveon.org and seen MM's movie. I'm betting you've not availed
yourself of any of the opposition's contributions, labeling them lies and
distortions without ever laying eyes to them.


Maxprop wrote:
Unlike you hard-core liberals

The fact that you're calling me a "hard core liberal" shows that you
haven't paid attention to anything in the real world.

The fact that you've repeatedly labeled yourself "conservative" demonstrates
a serious case of denial, or at least a definition worthy of mysticism.

What do you think the word "liberal" means, other than just an insult
used a lot by Rush Limbaugh since his lawyers won't let him say "******"?

I'm not the one defending his position. Please elucidate your definition of
conservative. And if you're so inclined, I'd really love to hear how you
believe John Kerry exemplifies any of the characteristics embodied in your
definition. That should be fascinating.


.... I've chosen to make up my own mind, rather
than allowing others to do so for me.


Your mind has been "made up" by the chorus of crap from the fascist
whacko tub thumpers.

Actually, between the two of us, I'm the only one who has viewed both sides
and the respective advocates' positions and based my belief on what I've
read/seen/heard.. Have your read O'Neill's book? I didn't think so. By
immersing yourself solely in the rhetoric of the left, you really are in no
position to be calling the kettle black.

And you not only believe it all, you're betting the future of our
country on it; and on top of that you are fatuously telling others how
smart you are.

I'm hardly complacent w/r/t my position. Rather I've done the footwork.
Have you?

Please answer this, Doug: name one modern (within the past century or two)
nation that has gravitated from relative conservatism to a more liberal
state, ultimately resulting in socialism, and has remained viable,
successful, and economically prosperous. Hint: don't bother; there are
none.

When a government assumes the responsibility for 1) determining what is and
isn't appropriate behavior, 2) supplying all of the basic needs of its
citizens, 3) limiting the ability of the individual to achieve wealth and
prosperity, and 4) restricting the ability of the individual to pursue
personal interests and goals, has it fulfilled any of the tenets of your
arcane definition of "conservatism?" Further, has it adhered to the basic
principles of the Constitution of the USA and/or the Bill of Rights?

Max