One of the two sisters, Monica, along with her husband George has
crewed for me on ECHO. By the way, neither of the ladies is spoiled
--and they are not American.

Monica is an avid sailor, and I definitely want her back as crew. She
and George both have a lot to learn, but they are putting huge effort
into learning, and they're great company.

75% of learning is attitude. Both George and Monica have a serious
interest in the sport, and that is reflected in their attitude--both helpful
and thoughtful.

If someone want to come sailing with me, and I have space, I'll always
say yes. That comes from a childhood where I was eager to sail and
grateful for the times I was taken out. Pay it forward, if you can't pay
it back.

"DSK" wrote
katysails wrote:
If that was the plan, then when your friend showed up with his women you
should have spoken up and explained yopu were not prepared for
non-sailors
and that there would be no facilities so therefore they should change
their
plans and go to the beach or something...you are not obligated to
inconvenience your plans for others....by trying to be nice, you ended
up
being a jerk....stop trying and just be yourself....

Fixing the head would be a good option too...

For some years we kept spare foul weather gear aboard... not the real
good stuff, but adequate for unprepared guests for most weather. We had
one friend show up with one of those K-mart ponchos and insisted he was
OK with that... man did he ever get soaked!

I don't agree that Bart should have changed his plans for guests he
wasn't even expecting. What were his obligations to them? American women
are too spoiled, they expect to be catered to for no reason.

But OTOH it is a good idea to show newbies that sailing is fun... they
can find out about the torture part later! Bart, you may have chased
away potential future crew.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King