Dave Hall wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
Paul Schilter wrote:

Dave,
I take exception to your term of "liberal", I may be more
liberal than
yourself, but no where near where Harry is at. Perhaps you
should use the
term "Extreme" as a definer, just so you don't paint such a wide
swatch. I
guess this is a problem with labels, we wear so many different
ones on
different issues. I rather doubt that when we vote for someone,
we vote for
a person that believes just like we do.All of life is a compromise.


Point taken. And you are correct. Harry displays a form of liberalism
that is equivilent in position to Jerry Falwell on the opposite side.

Dave


You know, Dave, you are such an intellectual numnutz, you're pathetic.
On a legitimate scale of liberal to conservative, with moderate as the
center, I'd fall a few hairs left of moderate.

What views do you think I hold that would put me "opposite" the Rev. Mr.
Falwell on the political scale?

That I'm pro-choice? I'd say about half of Americans are pro-choice.

That I think George W. Bush is not worthy of being POTUS? More voters
thought that way than thought he was suitable.

That I think Bush's Iraq policies are so much crap? That's the position
held by at least half of America.

That I'm in favor of many government programs that aid the needy? Well,
so are most Americans.

That I think our system of providing decent medical care to every
American sucks big time? Well, so do most Americans.

That I think that the UN, despite its faults, is the best bet for doing
what it does, despite the efforts of the right to demonize it? So do
most Americans.

That I think people like you, who hold far-right extremist views,
represent a real danger to our democracy? Well, so do most Americans who
think about such issues.


None of your claims are substantiated with anything any more credible
than your own opinion, so that makes them skeptical at best.

Dave

Uh, Dave...what I posted here are not claims. if you check the results
of legitimate opinion surveys going back quite a few years, you'll see
that about everything I have posited here in terms of what I believe and
support is quite moderate and mainstream.

Which views have I posted immediately above that wouldn't be supported
by about 50% of Americans?

Almost all of them. I could post some stats of my own, but you'd just
dismiss them as more "right wing crap".


My views are moderate and mainstream, Dave. You are the one way out
there on the edge of wetness, sitting on the right-wing extremist bench
with ol' Karl Derringer.

Says you. According to an on-line survey that was features here a month
or so back, I fall to the left of GWB, and only slightly to the right of
center.


You're a right-wing control freak, Dave

Control? Hardly. I'm for freedom, the freedom of choice. As long as
those choices are not morally wrong.


But you want to control determining what is morally right or morally wrong.



with an overlay of rigid
personality. Your posts here over the years prove it.

You mistaken a rigid personality with adherence to principles.

Nope. You've got a rigid personality.


The
priciples of logic are unwavering, and dedication to those principles is
as well.

I think your principles went over a precipice long ago.







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