mark, you said 'asymptote", and none exists. *that* is bad English?

It seems to me more likely that you didn't have a clew what the word meant, and
you used it anyway to "prove" to one and all what a genius you are.

remember, the term entered this thread when some fraud claiming to be a college
professor totally misused the word.

mark, were that fraud?


From: Mark Borgerson
Date: 9/6/2004 1:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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In article ,
says...
dood, there ain't no asymptote no where.

duh.

never let it be said you are concerned with reality, merk.


In any case, I was apparently more concerned with my English and
typing classes than you.


Mark Borgerson


From: Mark Borgerson
Date: 9/5/2004 7:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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In article ,
says...
mark, that ain't no asymptote.

duh.

Duh! Perhaps you'll re-read the part below and find I never said it
was an asymptote. I said there are inflection points in the
power speed curve. The only asymptote I've mentioned is
the one at c.

Mark Borgerson



From: Mark Borgerson
Date: 9/3/2004 11:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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In article ,
says...
Until you get past Mach 1, at least! ;-) after that point,
there are some inflection points in the power/speed curve, IIRC.

no, you don't remember any such thing. unless of course you were
stoned
out of
your gourd in your fourth sophomore year in college.


Whoa! You must have me mixed up with someone who went to UC Berkely
in
the 60's. My sophomore year was at UC Davis in '65 and we weren't
smoking much grass at all! (although there were probaby a lot of
students figuring out how to optimize the yield---Davis being a
world-class agricultural school) ;-)


As for inflection points, consult the definition at

http://www.math.com/tables/derivatives/extrema.htm

and look at the following crude graphic

*
*
*
*
P *
*
O *
*
W *
*
E
*
R *
*

************************************************* *******************
0 0.5 1.0 1.5 2.0

MACH NUMBER


There is an inflection point at about Mach 1. However there is no
point
on the graph where you get an increase in speed without an increase in

power.

If you look at the engine data at
http://www.voodoo.cz/hornet/info.html

you will find that the F-18 engines develop about 14,000 pounds thrust
at full military power and 21,000 pounds at full afterburner. Yet
it takes full military power to get to mach 1, but with 50%
more power, you can end up at mach 1.8. Thus the inflection
point just past mach 1. (Like most modern military jets prior to
the F-22, the F-18 cannot sustain supersonic speeds in level flight
without afterburners.)

If you have more detailed power/speed curves for the transonic region,
feel free to post some links to enlighten us.


Mark Borgerson