Yeah Okay... I've been out on site for the last while here..... Cape Breton
Highlands.

I emailed my friend Beth and she contacted Alex who has the logs for the
trip. He won't be back until the 15th.of this month [Holman Island on
Geotechnical} ... just when I start my project.

At any rate once I get a copy of the logs dealing with that portion of the
trip I'll post them to webshots. Beth was on the trip and concurs on a fast
passage but does not remember the exact speeds. My brother concurs on the
speed but does not remember the exact point of sail.
So I'm still relying on my recollections which I remember as just high of a
beam reach.. and to weather. [ Not close hauled]

Basically until I front up some evidence I'll have to take it on the chin
around here.

No Doug it wasn't experimental and I doubt a Corbin 39 could match a Cabo
38.. I have sailed both vessels. The Bayfield 40 would be left well behind
both the Corbin39 and the Cabo38. I haven't sailed the Bayfield 40 but I
have sailed the Bayfield 32... it's a slug! So are all the Bayfields...
exceptionally slow vessels. You'd better adjust your "numbers" .

CM


"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
| Capt. Mooron wrote:
| I don't dispute your contention that racing regularly attunes you to
| numbers..... but your position that the Cabo 38 isn't a fast offshore
| crusier is remarkably uninformed.
|
| Of course... you *have* to say that!
|
| ... Since you are formulating these
| conjectures without practical experience on the vessel... I'm left to
| question not only your reasoning but your objectives as well.
|
| To date you have failed to supply hard data to disprove my claim.
|
| I'll stand by what I said.
|
| Well, it hinges a on a couple of things... what do you mean by "fast"
| and what do you mean by "offshore cruiser"? For example, the Saga 43 and
| her sisters are often touted as "fast offshore cruisers." Nobody in
| their right mind would doubt that a Saga 43 would sail rings around a CR
| 38 in most conditions, but it's a bigger boat & a newer design... plus
| it's got a (gasp) fin keel.
|
| I took the liberty of firing up my huge database of boat specs, and did
| some sorting. From a list of a couple hundred boats that were close to
| the Cabo Rico 38 in displacement & LOD (a more honest measure of size
| than LOA) I sorted through to get 50 that most would agree are fit for
| offshore sailing, then sorted them by calculated speed (Vmax not hull
| speed). Few of these boats have PHRF ratings BTW.
|
| The Cabo Rico 38 came out 34th on the list, well under halfway down.
| Conclusion- below average in speed potential.
|
| Some faster boats from the list:
| Bayfield 40, Island Packet 37, Corbin 39, Pacific Seacraft 40, Morgan
| 41, Robinhood 40 (the old Little Harbor 38), Shannon 37, Wright 40, Swan
| 38....
|
| Slower boats: Hallberg-Rassy 36, Tartan 37 (?!?), Allied Mistress, Alden
| 38, Nor'Sea 37, Baba 35, Nauticat 38... the amazing thing is that some
| boats were calculated as slower than the Nauticat, which is a very heavy
| high-sided motorsailer.
|
| Sorry, Mooron... I'm not trying to pass judgement on a boat I have no
| experience with, but it's hard to justify calling it fast unless there
| is something more to the story here... maybe the one you were sailing
| was a secret experimental version?
|
| Fresh Breezes- Doug King
|