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Bart Senior wrote:
When a man, sailing alone on the ocean, speaks--is he still wrong?

This joke reflects the whole nature of women. They blame the man
even if it is perfectly clear he has done nothing wrong, because the
woman is really looking for something else--acknowledgement,
reassurance, comfort, security.

When a woman says no, does she really mean yes?

This isn't a joke, but men continually think it is or there's some
doubt.

It doesn't bother me that women are deceptive and manipulative.
That is the edge they use to balance the equation with men.

Yes, actually it's pretty obvious that it does bother you.

If a man reveals he is not taken in by a woman's "feminine wiles",
she gets mad, like katy, and comes up with a lame reason to
blame the man. He's wrong. Just like katy makes herself believe
that I'm wrong.

Why do you use the word "reveals?" Is this something you're hiding?
What's wrong with playing the small game of being taken in by her
"wiles," even though both people know it's not really true. That's a
much more positive way to interact.

If a woman's deception and manipulation don't work, then she has
fewer tools to get what she wants--it upsets the balance of the
equation. No wonder this makes them mad!

Yeh, she's left with her brains, which are equal or greater than a
man's.

If you don't like the message, shoot the messenger. katy doesn't
like the message, so she shoots me. Of course it makes no logical
sense, but she feels better. It's a gut level emotional reaction.

You've been doing that with your posts.

It is no wonder men tend keep their thoughts to themselves,
because logical discussions don't work with emotional women.

Some men. Some men who aren't comfortable expressing themselves in a
cogent and intelligent way when around women.

Women care about communication when it serves to give them
clues to manipulate their man better. They don't want to hear
anything else.

Seems familiar to what you've been posting about yourself.
You don't want to listen.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."