JAXAshby wrote:
schlackoff, it obvious you have not a clew what the word "reference" means. a
reference point has properties. I doubt you know what the word "properties"
means either.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=reference
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=properties

And from:

http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...erence%20point

reference point

n : an indicator that orients you generally; "it is used as a reference
for comparing the heating and the electrical energy involved" [syn:
point of reference, reference]

So, for example, the sun is a reference point because in the morning,
you know that the direction the sun is in is generally east. So, now
tell us how you can pinpoint your location if you can see the sun (a
***reference point***) and know that your ***reference point*** is
generally in the east direction.

Remember, you claimed that "if you can see a reference point, you know
where you are."

The sun is a reference point because it fits the definition, i.e., it's
an indicator that orients you generally, i.e., you know you are facing
generally east if you are facing the sun in the morning. Are you
actually going to continue to try and claim that you know exactly where
you are simply because you know you're facing generally east? Are you
really trying to say you're actually that stewpid?

Steve



schlackoff, *you* were the one claiming that reference points were not

needed

to determine position, and *you* were the one claiming that the sun could

never

be a reference point.

There you go again making unsubstantiated claims. When are you going to
learn that it only makes you look like more of an idiot when you try and
back up one unsubstantiated claim with another?


little boy, it seem apparent you have not a clew what the word "reference"
means, most certainly not in the context of a point.

You're the one who made the claim that if you can see a reference point
then you know where you are. Now you're claiming that the sun can not
be a reference point ... because otherwise you would know exactly where
you are by simply seeing the sun.

It's your turn to decide: Is the sun a reference point? And if so, do
you always know where you are simply by seeing the sun?

Steve



schlackoff? are you purposely trying to appear dense, or are you really,
really stew ped? It appears you don't understand one word in five in any
normal sentence.

As we all know by now, that's your way of admitting you're wrong, and
you cannot determine your position simply by seeing a reference point as
you have claimed.

Steve