durn, schlackoff. and just when you are starting to make progress.

oh well. in the end, schlackoff, you are just another Darwin candidate.

way to go, schlackoff, you are beginning to understand. soon you will
realize
that you need more than one reference point, but certainly the sun can be
used
for one of them. In fact, the sun has been used as a reference point for
sailing for maybe a thousand years.

Ah, very good joxitchby. Now you are beginning to understand. Soon you
will realize that if you are standing in a forrest, can see the sun and
the moon at the same time (very possible certain times of the month and
day) and can even see a jetliner passing overhead (3 ***reference***
points) then you can still be lost. Of course, you'll have to admit to
being wrong to also admit it's still possible to be lost with those 3
known reference points I listed.

attaboy joxie.

Steve