Per, you remind me of a fellow pilot work with, whom I used to call "60
grit". He was honestly amazed at how many people got so offended by his
remarks, and how people would "attack him" for his "honest opinions". He
seems to have gotten over it, though, having gone from people declaring they
wouldn't fly with the guy, to handling a big political mess on a recent
1,400 mile rescue mission.

Most people tend to look at the world through a one way mirror. They see
the other guy as much darker, and can't see their own reflection very well.
Try flipping it around. Imagine they are trying to help you. Think they
are trying to help you succeed by focusing you on your core capabilities
instead of thinking you are going to change the world. That's because they
are.

Personally, I have gotten far more from Devil's advocates than cheerleaders.
For example, I blew $1,600 and months of frustration on a College project I
funded. I got caught up in the teams enthusiasm and wound up with a pile of
junk instead of my goal.

Speaking of which (and back to planking methods) your CAD work is great.
What I am interested in is an easy way to turn a CAD design into a decent
mold. CAD has gotten cheap, trying to get cheap CAM is the issue now.


"Per Corell" wrote in message
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Hi

(William R. Watt) wrote in message
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That is not true. Several people looked at your material. What they
objected to was your everlasting postings promoting your ideas in this
newsgroup.

Realy -- well I notised that round 1700 members in the Cyber-Boat
Yahoo group don't complain about new idears and smart way's that make
no bad craftmanship out of the fantastic new options combining a noble
old craft with today's obvious options .

Many people have described new techniques in this newsgroup but
they (we) don't go on and on about them until everyone gets fed up with
them. That is what people objected to and that is what made your
postings
unpopular.

My posting never was unpopular except among a small crowd that all the
time was talking about a specific designer who some 70 years ago
didn't make beautifull vessels and nice craftmanship, but forced cheap
materials into lazy drawings that often made problems for those who
was actural amature builders who just wanted a cheap boat for the
summer, from scrap sheet. ---- please don't make that better than
geniune wooden boatbuilding and the noble arts and skills of exelent
craftmen.


If you think society will immediately see one of your ideas as the great
new earth-shattering thing you, and other people who come up with ideas
often do, then you are wrong.

And you are here to fight "them" --- now except the obvious harm you
want to put onto somone and his family by bullying and hate, what's
your income ?
Do you just hate anyone skilled to work with , develob and ignite the
positive spirit and wanting to create somthing nice, are you just
hating anyone skilled to develob the new computer tools so to bring a
bit of beauty and develobment in a dying craft. Or maby boatsbuilding
for you mean staying with plywood designs as you can not cope with
nothing more complicated than bullying -------- what did you show, was
it a nice display of exiting possibilities or was it nothing but
bullying anything that was different than what you can grasp, all
"modern" and "different" -------- then "different" from what ,the
elegant elefant ?


Adoption of new ideas comes slowly. There
are significant costs invovled. It takes time to prove a new idea. If
you
think your ideas are worthwhile then develop and prove them yourself,
and
do not complain when other people are unwillign to devote their time and
money to it.

------ What an arogant statement, some guy profesionaly skilled and
with a load of fantastic new drive, able to create the wonders and
proven top skills come and "think he is anything" , 1700 members
steady and thousands floating in and out get all the inspiration that
is my only intention to bring, the exiting new computer tools on
display in a way that in actural pictures 3D show different technikes
for the ones who don't want to project a boat as they did since 1740,
then you sit at a computer and claim that lame plywood designs made
from scrap, shuld be better than geniune noble crafts and quality,
safety and thought.
You got a lot of things wrong, but it seem that your own shouting and
dirt throwing made you blind.

Did you realy think I was some Hippie that played with a computer, or
is that just the hate picture you used to promote the tradisional
boatplans that in this fora was God, the old fasion technikes that you
had to defend with bullying and making a fool out of anyone "who think
they are anything" or "is better than us" ----- well that's not what
boatbuilding is for me, for me it is about craftmanship nice design
,and actural develobment of a noble old craft.


In any engineering discipline new ideas are a dime a dozen.

Realy,--- now please remember that they also said that a ship made out
of Iron could never float, that nothing heavier than the air would
never fly and that infront a car, there shuld be a man with a gun and
a huge flag.
Engineering is full of just that deadend conservatism you progress but
tell me what you contribuated. --

P.C.