ok i'll agree with you for the moment.
we had no business in iraq.
now can you respond to my post?

the question was:
....what would you propose as an alternative?
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further: (disagree)
obviously either i was not clear or you did not read my post.
i never stated a direct connection between iraq and taliban, or 9/11

first you state: "muslim in name only" (???????)
and than

"If it is your attitude that "all them Arabs
look alike to me"""

do you see any contradiction here?

no i did not "confuse" iraq and iran.

we did not destroy his military in the gulf war, and this was made evident
by the force used to repell the allied forces.
no threat to iraq's neighbors?
really.
let's see what countries iraq is popular with
iran?........... nah
jordan........ppppppppppp
saudi..........doubtful
united arab emirates.............laugh out loud
kuwait.........sure
israel.....yeah right
egypt..........guess again

no ......no threat to iraq's nieghbors.
perhaps ....syria!
now there's an interesting thought to ponder.

what do you call the guys with grenade launchers and bombs?
or the gentlemen with big swords on video?
politicans
freedom fighters
what?

are you trying to tell us they are foreign fighters?
(i am especially looking forward to your answer to this one)

" Iraq has never been linked to the death of one American
through terrorist attack. "

if you are speaking of pre IRAQ/USA, i agree.
if you believe the hotbed of anti american sentiment in places like
fallujah, is because of bush and is not dangerous..............i'm
impressed.

i see, they just "found" weapons to combat the americans with. nothing to do
with saddam, terrorism or anything else.
just protecting they're homes......still.

if some foreign force entered your hometown, usa tomorrow, what kind of fire
power would you have available, being just a citizen protecting your home?
a pistol is possible
a shotgun or rifle maybe
a bow and arrow

how about a couple of rockets!
now we're talking!

fair winds
gf.



"felton" wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 12:24:07 -0400, "gonefishiing"
wrote:

felton,
first i should say i did not support this war at its being.

assuming i buy your agrument for a few minutes
which, by the way, i don't.
....what would you propose as an alternative?

Not go off on unrelated snipe hunts when we should be hunting for
bears. Our issue was terrorism. If you have been paying attention at
all, you would know that terrorists are primarily muslim extremists,
or jihadists if you prefer that term. Iraq was run by a ruthless
secular dictator who was Muslim in name only. He and the terrorists
were natural enemies. He wasn't a sponsor of terrorism. There was NO
connection between Iraq and 9/11 and Iraq was NO threat to us, or even
his neighbors when we attacked. We had destroyed his military in the
first Gulf War.

Don't believe me? How about Colin Powell in 2001

"One aspect of Michael Moore's documentary film, "Fahrenheit 9/11,"
that you won't hear Republicans denouncing is a 2001 video clip of
Colin Powell calling Saddam Hussein no threat.

Audiences react with shocked murmurs. The film doesn't explain the
context, a Feb. 24, 2001, diplomatic meeting in Cairo. Pressed by
Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak about the Iraqi people's suffering
under U.S. economic sanctions, Powell reminded his audience that they
existed to check Saddam's ambitions.

"And frankly," he added, "they have worked. He has not developed any
significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He
is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors."

Not only was Iraq no danger to the United States, it had no capacity
to menace such powerhouses as Jordan and Kuwait. So why are we reading
news accounts like this in July 2004: "Saddam's army posed little
threat, Senate panel says" and "Panel describes long weakening of
Hussein army."



impotent dictator?
this impotent dictator has supported the very culture that these
terrorists
live in and thrive on.
they didn't just materialize out of thin air with grenade launchers
strapped
to their backs.

If it is your attitude that "all them Arabs
look alike to me", then there isn't much reason for you not to vote
for Bush.