jeffies, you definitely said *you* know where *you* are because you have
reference points in DR.

Show us where I said that. You're fantasizing an entire discussion, jaxie.

one post up, and the entire post below

you ONLY have where you started

That's one reference point ...

it is no longer a reference point once you have moved, for you no longer know
where it is. that is a fact of physics (which you said you have a degree in)

which direction mag North
is.

That's another reference point.

really? so, if that is true and you know North is "thata way" where on the
planet are you?