On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:18:26 GMT, Rick wrote:

JohnH wrote:

What is wrong with my suggestion that the funerals be televised?

Nothing at all. What I see as wrong is your cynical use of the hiding of
those deaths for your own political purposes.

This is the first time in US history that the news media has been
prohibited from covering a poignant and powerful symbol of American
military "sacrifice." Bush Sr. used the image of those caskets to
bolster his image. Did you protest then?

Bush followed every hearse after 9/11, he reveled in the images of death
until the dead of Afghanistan began to haunt his polls. Bush now fears
the power of the images of those caskets.

Is it that most families would not allow the media to do so?
Could it be that privacy is desired?

Are you speaking for them now? Those aircraft discharging their sad
cargoes at Dover are national symbols. Each individual funeral is a
local tragedy. They are covered locally, as they should be.

You are being disingenuous at best and more than a little hypocritical.
You wrote nothing here to complain of the scenes at WTC, you wrote
nothing to to complain of the scenes of dead Iraqis, Africans, so why
the sudden moral conversion when it comes to supporting the chimp's
cynical prohibitions at Dover, prohibitions imposed solely to protect
his political poll standings and diminish the negative impact of his
failed policies abroad.

If you can't see the hypocrisy in your position then you are truly blind.

Rick

Ricky, Ricky. I have not established a position. I have simply provided
alternatives and questions. You, et al, are all worked up (like a superball
bouncing off walls) about the lack of media coverage of arriving caskets. You
are the one with a political agenda. I am the one providing you with an
alternative -- televise the funerals! You'd get more tears and heart-rending
stuff to make Americans who (unlike you) don't appreciate death enough (assuming
they exist, which is your basic requirement).

I have no political purpose in hiding deaths. Show the funerals!

Did Bush really follow over 2000 hearses after 9/11? I didn't remember that.

You asked if I protested Bush Sr's use of caskets to "...bolster his image". No,
I did not protest because the action did not occur. I am not protesting now. You
are.

I asked the question, "Could it be that privacy is desired?" You somehow turned
this into me speaking for families. I simply asked a question. The families can
speak for themselves. I haven't heard any of them complaining of the lack of
media coverage of their deceased relatives' caskets arriving at Dover. Have you?
Shouldn't they be doing the ****ing and moaning since they're the ones who
suffered the loss?

No, I wrote nothing to complain of showing dead anybody! You, et al, are the
ones doing the complaining. I am just responding to it with reasonable
suggestions and alternatives, which you seem disinclined to address.

What position am I so hypocritical about. Do you not find the idea of televising
funerals very tasteful?

Now, go and have a good day.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD