"DSK" wrote in message
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Vito wrote:
One of the most disgraceful moments in American history came when the
anti-war movement(s) blamed the military for the 'Nam war instead of the
real perp's - NcNamara, Bunker and the rest of JFK's whiz kids.

??? Hardly. The Dulles brothers stand closer to the top of that list than
them.

What do the Dullus boys have to do with this subject - they didn't work for
JFK nor did they manufacture the Gulf of Tonkin incident. McNamara and
Bunker did. I never saw any hippie rallies protesting Dullus and AFAIK Abie
Hoffman never mentioned that name. So ????

To refresh your memories, Ho & Co didn't know what to do after ousting
the French.

??? What alternate history is this? ....

The truth instead of the BS you've been spoon fed. UN? sure it was. Just
like Desert Storm and Korea.

Apparently you have forgotten that Ho was trained by the Soviets and was
a dedicated communist revolutionary.

Apparently you never knew that Ho worked for us and was supplied by US
intellegence during WW2, or that an independent Vietnam was established just
after WW 2, or that when it was attacked by France Ho wrote letters to
Presidents Truman and Eisenhower begging us to come in and take over like we
were doing in the Phillipines and show them how to govern a free country -
but that we were afraid to offend France. Communist revolutionary? Only in
your dreams! Ho was a Vietnamese nationalist forced into the USSR's hands
when we turned on him.

... But JFK's support for the corrupt but Catholic Diem regime had
Buddists (the majority) burning themselves in protest and, by the time
he
went to Dallas, polls showed Commies by a landslide.

Where are you getting this malarkey? The southern Vietnamese disliked
and distrusted the Communists from the git-go, and furthermore the south
was swamped with refugees fleeing Ho's gov't. The reunification
plebescite was never held in the north, and attempts to hold it in the
south were disrupted by communist guerillas.

Fact is only a tiny percent of Vietnamese had ever heard of communism, or
capitalism for that matter. Most were apolitical Buddists who were glad the
French invaders had been ousted but just wanted peace. Do you think that Ho
and his fighters were unpopular after beating the French? Do you deny that
Buddist monks were emolating themselves to protest the Diem government?
That Diem used US aid to turn villages into prison camps? That if a village
elected a Buddist Diem sent soldiers to kill him and install a Catholic?
Yes there were refugees - Air America was established to fly them north or
south as they wished- but.most of those heading south had collaborated with
the French and were being abused by vet's of that war.

CIA told JFK Diem had to go for Ike's plan to work but JFK waffled. He had
to consult the Pope, et cetera, while time slipped away. The Viet Cong
guerillas did not become active nor disruptive until after the So.
Vietnamese government announced that the reunification election would NOT be
held on time - in fact that's what set them off. After that there was a war
going on as far as the north was concerned.

Old saying: How do you make a fool uninformed? Take away his newspaper and
TV. How do you make him misinformed? Give them back. Obviously you got
yours back.