Jeff Morris wrote:
"Donal" wrote in message
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Jeff Morris wrote:
Belief in God should be an absolute act of faith.

Incorrect. Many religions demand absolute faith - which is quite
different.



How?

Most religions are based around a particular view of "God". I am
suggesting that there must be a God, because nothing else can explain
the Universe or mankind.




Arguing for the
existence of God on scientific or logical grounds is accepting the

possibility

that someone could simply provide a stronger argument the God doesn't exist.

True. However, if you have Faith, then you know that nobody will be
able to provide a stronger argument.


In other words, while you argue "scientifically" you will not consider the
possibility that you might be wrong. And yet you say that the is not an
absolute act of faith.

That isn't true.


We hold many opinions that we believe to be certainties. How often do
you see two people arguing about facts - when they are both convinced
that they are absolutely correct? Are they both acting on an absolute
act of faith?

Have you ever lost a bet? Were you acting on an absolute act of faith?

The funny thing is that your position is very much like a zealot's. You
constantly tell me that I am wrong, and yet you offer no evidence to
back up your position.

For example - you are trying to tell me that I am demonstrating an
absolute act of faith. The reality is that unless you offer evidence to
support your view, then you are behaving as if you were saddled with
absolute faith.


I have explained why I think that there must be a God. I've offered a
justification for my belief. People with absolute faith find it
difficult to offer a logical explaination for their views.




If
you want to believe, fine - but don't try to prove that your faith is

justified.

I've been discussing the existence of God, not faith. Why do you think
that I shouldn't argue for the existence of God?


You're not arguing if deby the possibility that you might be proven wrong.
You're simply asserting your faith.

Perhaps you should look at your own posts????

I've tried to offer evidence! I've even tried to introduce the
accepted alternatives into the discussion. You are simply asserting
that I am wrong.






I find it strange that people get so defensive when evidence is put
forward that suggests that God must exist.



I agree, why are you so defensive? Are you trying to prove God's existence as
a way to bolster your faith?

Why do yo keep trying to turn this into a religious discussion?

Why don't you offer some evidence to back up your position?

Stop acting in the manner that you (falsely) accuse me of.



Regards


Donal
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