"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
There is at least one club (and another considering it), in Balt. that has
set a 'high wind' mark where they won't let students go out. This is part of
the aftermath of that water taxi that blew over in Balt. Inner Harbor.

Scotty

Thats a shame.
Here it is kinda funny and sad. Some kid brought his 12 foot boat on
the lake a week or so ago and capsized strait out from were I live. He
was struggling to get it back upright, all he needed to do was release
his main sheet and he would of had the strength and weight to do it.
But before he figured that out the coast guard was there, Towboats
USA, CSCG Reserves, and four or five other speed boats. The cops were
on the bank, firetrucks standing by ect.

There are lots of apartment building and condos that over look the
lake and the locals go phone wild anytime anyone capsizes. Soon as the
water is a little warmer Im gonna go out, capsize, Sit on the board
just long enough for everyone to make all the calls, then pop up and
take off.

Poor kid, bet he was embaressed with all the fuss and boats, I was
suprised they did not have a blackhawk hovering over him.

Being able to right a boat is sailing 101. Everyone that sails a dink
should be able to right the boat they sail. And they should be left
alone and given the time and space to do it.

Joe






"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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"Veridican" wrote in message
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Jeff,

You say 25 knots is more like a jog in the park

Yes, its a bit of work.


and 35 is survival conditions,
and then you say it's no big deal. 25 knots is 21 mph sustained. It's a
force
6
wind. In a cruising boat, you should be in harnesses and reefed.

Yes, I'd probably be reefed, unless its downwind. I reef fairly often -
sometimes I'll reef at the dock and then shake it out if the predicted
wind
doesn't happen. What's the point - is reefing a sign that its dangerous?
I've
set all my "personal speed records" under shortened sail - currently 13.5
knots
in bursts, surfing down waves; about 12 knots sustained reaching in 25
knots of
wind. The former situation was a bit un-nerving because it was one of
our
first times in the boat. The second was just a fun daysail, reaching back
and
forth across Buzzard's Bay in a warm SW blow.

As for a harness - I very rarely use mine during the day - I don't
recall ever
feeling at risk of going overboard. I do sometime wear inflatable
SOSpendors,
if there's a chance I have to go forward. But my current boat and my
previous
boat have large, secure cockpits with all lines led aft, good lifelines
with
full netting. 25 knots of wind would not be a reason to harness. 8 foot
seas
might be, but that's another story.

In a dinghy you shouldn't go out at all.

Total nonsense. I've run regatta's in 20 to 25 knots, though that's about
the
limit for the small dinks we had. But I've raced a number of times in 25+
knots. I've taught beginners' lessons in 12 foot dinks in over 20, but I
did
advise students that they were guaranteed to be soaked in 2 minutes, and a
capsize was likely if they took the tiller. In fact, in 6 years of
instructing
I don't recall canceling a lesson just because of high wind, though the
students
did decline on occasion.

I'm not saying it can't be fun, but don't make it
sound like it's a normal sailing experience.

It all depends on where you live, what kind of boat you have, and what
type of
local support. Boston is the windiest city in the country, so its not
uncommon
in the Spring and Fall to have serious wind. If you sail out of a club
that has
committee boats and/or rescue launches you can afford to take some risks.
And
for a proper cruising boat, 25 knots is not that big of a deal.

To use your own words, It's a jog
in the park.